AR 15's on the street-Any LEO can respond, please

[Calif Mini]

Just trying to stay on the right side of the law.

What is the current feelings and information given to officers about the AW's and how you are instructed to proceed when someone comes in contact with a citizen with an AR-15 with or without a fixed magazine? Like when it is being legally transported not an adversarial situation.

Same question about "Bullet Buttons" or other mag locks. Is the consensus they are OK or what is the info or direction given in the briefing room or around the station on a daily basis?

I hope this doesn't sound lame as it is important to me to know the correct thing in regards to AR-15's.

Thanks for the help and for what you do in a normal days work.

Ed

[jimmiya]

I'm interested as well.

[Sicmaro]

I'm putting a briefing together to better inform my shift. But best thing is to have a short 10 round with a bullet button. Not a 10/30 or 10/20 but a straight 10. just for safety. But biggest thing, don't give us any reason to pull you over and you should be good if your AR is legit.

[SoCalDep]

I have a U15 equipped AR, one of my partners has a BB AR, and I just sold my Lt my extra stripped lower. I know of several other deps/sgts who either have or are planning to purchase OLL's.

I'd say )at my station) expect to have your weapon inspected and maybe a delay while the guy talks to those in the "know", but I severely doubt you'd have any significant trouble.

[CSACANNONEER]

I bet that most, if not all, LEOs on this forum are fine with legally configured firearms. I'm more worried about the know-it-all LEOs who are anti-gun and their entire training consists of the old DOJ AW booklet.

[Ron-Solo]

I bet that most, if not all, LEOs on this forum are fine with legally configured firearms. I'm more worried about the know-it-all LEOs who are anti-gun and their entire training consists of the old DOJ AW booklet.

Us too.......

[Jonathan Doe]

I have seen enough OLLs with Prince 50 with screws removed, OLLs with regular magazine release. My office recently received OLLs with 7" barrel and regular magazine release and collapsable stock for examination. I see those AW on a fairly regular basis, but haven't seen any OLLs with bullet buttons. That shows the street cops know their stuffs regarding AW.

[alex00]

I have zero problems with legally configured firearms. I own several OLLs, and know many people on my department do as well. I'm pretty sure that during normal staffing there are several Deputies that own OLLs working. I am confidant that if a patrol Deputy runs across an OLL on the street, there will be at least a few people working that know the legality.

[556fmj]

I know enough about the OLL topic that I have no problem with helping fellow officers with it if encountered on the street. Problem is not all of my partners are gun savvy especially on the off list lower AR style rifles. But to echo Sicmaro, get the short 10rd mags on it. From a quick glance no Law Enforcment Officer can tell if it is a fixed up 10/30 mag or a high capacity 30 rounder.

And yes, I have a few friends who are also LEOs who have OLL AR rifles.

[till44]

We have had training sessions on several different shifts about OLL in my department. Myself and another officer brought in several CA compliant ARs as well as a few Reg AW and explained the differences. For the most part I'd say that 65% of the department is at least familiar with the fact that anyone can own an AR type rifle in CA, as long as its configured correctly. In my experience AR are seldom encountered by LEO, especially when owned by law abiding citizens.

[Calif Mini]

AR 15's on the street- LEO responses

Thanks to all LEO's who took the time to respond.

I understand that if not in the wrong place at the wrong time or doing something he shouldn't, a law abiding citizen shouldn't have a problem.

I do not yet own an AR but intend to start gathering pieces for a build soon. I have actually made my own bullet button and a bench block that fits in place of the magazine to hold in a vise and several other sight tools and a bullet button installation spanner tool. etc.

I was at a local range recently and noticed three or four young men with several AR's and many other rifles and handguns having a fun day and I asked what line of work they were in to allow a midweek trip to the Livermore range...............Turns out they were all LEO's from different departments enjoying their day off.

I am encouraged there sounds to be a better understanding by LEO's than I expected but I guess that is just another part of their job.

Please keep up the good work and stay safe.

Thanks again, Ed

[Eargasm]

I'm putting a briefing together to better inform my shift. But best thing is to have a short 10 round with a bullet button. Not a 10/30 or 10/20 but a straight 10. just for safety. But biggest thing, don't give us any reason to pull you over and you should be good if your AR is legit.

If you're transporting your rifle in an automobile and the rifle's in a case, is it best to keep the bolt open?

[Calif Mini]

AR 15's on the street- LEO responses

I store and transport mine in a case that has a functional lock and with ammo not in any magazines or near the weapon. I keep the bolt in the closed position as there is no restriction that I no of having to do with this. I believe the springs will last longer if stored in the relaxed position. Same with magazine springs. May not be much different, but the cost is zero and it makes me feel better.

Ed

[Ron-Solo]

I store and transport mine in a case that has a functional lock and with ammo not in any magazines or near the weapon. I keep the bolt in the closed position as there is no restriction that I no of having to do with this. I believe the springs will last longer if stored in the relaxed position. Same with magazine springs. May not be much different, but the cost is zero and it makes me feel better.

Ed

Good advice and easy to do.

[Jonathan Doe]

I'm putting a briefing together to better inform my shift. But best thing is to have a short 10 round with a bullet button. Not a 10/30 or 10/20 but a straight 10. just for safety. But biggest thing, don't give us any reason to pull you over and you should be good if your AR is legit.

When you have 10/20 or 10/30 magazines, make sure it takes only 10 rounds. Some magazines can take 11 rounds and function. In strict sense of the law, it is illegal. Although I don't agree with it, I will have to report as such. Do I personally see it as illegal? Probably not if there was a block in the mag. I have seen SKS rifles taking 11 rounds and functions properly. But, as long as I don't see a modification in the magazine, I am okay with it. My personal magazines take only 9 rounds to be on the safe side.