LASD CHOPPER DOWN

[pacrat]

In San Gabriel Cyn above Azusa. 5 Deputies and a Doc on board. Headed up the canyon for a traffic collision.

All the news mentioned was a HARD LANDING AND ROLLOVER.

NO MENTION OF ANY FATALITIES THANKFULLY, AND I'M HOPING IT STAYS SO.

Prayers and best wishes for all on board.

EDIT to ADD update. This is what little is known.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/la-county-sheriff-helicopter-crash

[Devilock04]

Link to the thread in OT section. It’s mostly people speculating about the cause, however, there are links to pictures and a flyover video of the crash site.

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=26746072#post26746072

Hopefully everyone onboard pulls through and is ok in the end.

[micro911]

That must be Air-5. Hope all personnel are okay.

[zzwaste]

no mayday call means most likely not mechanical. maybe bad visibility due to dust blowing upwards in trying to land and assist the motorist. I think it hit the tree causing it to land hard at low height. They were definitely lucky it didnt roll down the hill.

[pacrat]

That must be Air-5. Hope all personnel are okay.

News this AM said it was Air-5.

Sheriff V said all gonna be OK. Doc on board was uninjured. One pilot still in Hospital for observation. All others recovering at home.

GOOD NEWS INDEED

[esy]

Very good news and glad to hear.

[TrailerparkTrash]

100% pilot error. I know.

[SoCalDep]

If you can’t say anything nice…

[jarhead714]

He forgot he was piloting what is likely the largest non-military rescue helo in the United States and tried to put it down somewhere he just didn’t have the clearance for. Expensive lesson learned.

[micro911]

I saw another one for the Air-5 was flying the other day. I was told they bought 3 of them and now one of the others is on duty.

[yzErnie]

100% pilot error. I know.

With all respect...Proof to back up your words?

It's tough when someone posts half a story. If it is true I don't have any issue with him calling it like it is. My issue is posting it without any explanation or link to prove his comment, just an "I know". That doesn't mean squat to me without supporting documents.

[RickD427]

100% pilot error. I know.

With all respect...Proof to back up your words?


It's tough when someone posts half a story. If it is true I don't have any issue with him calling it like it is. My issue is posting it without any explanation or link to prove his comment, just an "I know". That doesn't mean squat to me without supporting documents.

We really need to wait for the investigation to come out. The facts of the crash have been pretty well discussed among LASD veterans and there is very little disagreement in the versions of the events that have been discussed.

The pilot has wisely chosen to make no public statements regarding the circumstances of the crash out of respect for the investigative process.

I have a pretty good idea what the report will find, but we need to wait for it.

One thing that is important to remember, in anticipation of the report, is that air operations, like the one involved here, are conducted under principles of "calculated risk." The only way to guarantee that a helicopter will not crash is to prevent the pilots from ever taking off.

A finding of "Pilot Error" signifies that the pilot took an action that resulted in the crash and where an alternative action would likely have not resulted in the crash. If pilots had perfect judgement, and scene conditions were perfect, then such a finding would indicate failure on the part of the pilot. But under "calculated risk" decision-making, we need to evaluate the factors presented to the pilot before making that leap.

I know the pilot involved here, going back to his days as a civilian employee, before he became a deputy. He's not a knucklehead. There's a reason he earned his way to pilot of the premier aircraft in the fleet.