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  • Requiem
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 1725

    The Department Armorer...

    So, I'm not sure how it works in the LEA world with the maintainence of firearms issued. Is it like the military and the armorer is one of the guys he maintains the weapons for? Or is the armorer a hired civilian working at the department?

    The reason I ask is I'm somewhat interested in such a position. So if it is a hired civilian, what are the usual qualifications/requirements for such work?
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  • #2
    goathead
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 3601

    the armorer for local S.O. work out of the range

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    • #3
      Grumpyoldretiredcop
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2008
      • 6437

      In my former department's case, deputies who had already been assigned collateral duty as rangemasters also served as armorers. No one did it full time.

      Other departments do it differently.
      I'm retired. That's right, retired. I don't want to hear about the cop who stopped you today or how you didn't think you should get a ticket. That just makes me grumpy!

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      • #4
        BigDogatPlay
        Calguns Addict
        • Jun 2007
        • 7362

        In all but the largest agencies, the armorer position is an additional duty and not a full time assignment. I've known some small and rural agencies that assigned the duty to a reserve... who also happened to be an FFL or a gunsmith.
        -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

        Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

        Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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        • #5
          SVT-40
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2008
          • 12902

          I was the armorer for my department for 15 tears before I retired. It was a collateral assignment to my other assignments.

          Never heard of a "civilian" armorer in any So. Calif agency. Maybe a "reserve" assignment but no straight paid civilian non sworn armorer positions.
          Poke'm with a stick!


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          • #6
            Jonathan Doe

            They are sworn forthe most part, mostly assigned to the weapons training unit. I was an instructor, and worked as an on site armorer for the range, replacing broken parts.

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            • #7
              Ron-Solo
              In Memoriam
              • Jan 2009
              • 8581

              LASD is a full time position and the deputy receives bonus II pay for the position. I worked patrol years ago with the current armorer. Great guy!
              LASD Retired
              1978-2011

              NRA Life Member
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              NRA Shotgun Instructor
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              • #8
                bubbagump
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2006
                • 2302

                The Department Armorer/Rangemaster at Downey PD was an officer. From what I remember, he spent a lot of time at the range (Rio Hondo Range). You had to test into that assignment.

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                • #9
                  retired
                  Administrator
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 9409

                  Originally posted by Ron-Solo
                  LASD is a full time position and the deputy receives bonus II pay for the position. I worked patrol years ago with the current armorer. Great guy!
                  The one before him was a classmate of mine and worked SEB for 10yrs. prior to becoming an assistant armorer. He became the armorer when the armorer who had been there since I was new, finally retired IIRC.

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                  • #10
                    FLIGHT762
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 3072

                    Originally posted by SVT-40
                    I was the armorer for my department for 15 tears before I retired. It was a collateral assignment to my other assignments.

                    Never heard of a "civilian" armorer in any So. Calif agency. Maybe a "reserve" assignment but no straight paid civilian non sworn armorer positions.
                    Same here. We are a small agency(50 sworn). I would maintain the firearms, do the purchasing of the firearms and ammunition. This was in addition to my regular duties. No extra pay. I was also the head Rangemaster for over 20 years.
                    No civilian positions.

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                    • #11
                      nobody33
                      Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 298

                      Originally posted by SVT-40

                      Never heard of a "civilian" armorer in any So. Calif agency. Maybe a "reserve" assignment but no straight paid civilian non sworn armorer positions.
                      San Bernardino PD has a civilian rangmaster I believe (or did three years ago). It was a retired military or LE guy from what I recall.

                      Mine has around 10 full time officers.

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                      • #12
                        tyrist
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 4564

                        For us the armorers are a member of the firearms training staff and do armory duty as well as training and qualifications. All of them are full time sworn employees.

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                        • #13
                          aippi
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 2302

                          We had an Armory Sergeant that also, ran the range, was firarms instructor and got stuck with more unrelated duties then anyone. I filled in for him when I was Sergeant and knew just enough to know I did not want that position. Other then the fact it was Admin **** with Saturday, Sunday and holidays off and mostly 8-5 it was a lot of responsiblity, a lot of work and no thanks from anyone. Add the fact that a lot of officers treat a weapon like an NHL player treats a Hockey puck ( don't jump me guys ) and your are responsible for all of it, it takes a guy that really wants it to do the job. For most departments you would have to become a Certified LEO, start at the bottom and prove yourself over the years by picking up the certifications required for the job. The chances of you walking in off the street and picking up an Amorers job with any Department large enough to have a dedicated position for that post is about the same as the NRA backing O'bama for a second term. but don't let that keep you from going for it and if you are a young guy and can start out in the Military, Active or Reserves as an Armorer that gives you a heads up over most others once you have been in an Agency or Department for a few years.... Don't let no one tell you that you can't do somthing that you want to do....go for it.....
                          JD McGuire, Owner
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                          • #14
                            696k
                            Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 313

                            Our house has a full time range master/armorer. He is retired USMC. Never been a police officer...
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                            • #15
                              paladin4415
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 814

                              We had a full time civilian armorer for many years until he got himself fired over some very stupid stuff about 6-7 years ago. They never filled his position and now the range instructors (all sworn) handle the job.
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                              One guy walks over to the black rifle area and starts gazing. An employee asked him if he knew what he wanted. The guy answered "Not sure......definitely something black.............and short...............and tactical."

                              "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
                              -Mark Twain

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