LEO AW register question

[dennis1979gm]

Were does it state that you must turn in your AR if you quit your department? Is this some departments policy? I didn't see it any were posted on DOJs website. Has anyones dept. Here have policy that you must turn in your AR when you quit? Just wondering, no one in are dept. Ever said we had to I've only read it here

[Grumpyoldretiredcop]

My former agency does not have such a policy.

[dennis1979gm]

My dept doesn't either just wanted to make sure it was a dept policy and not a DOJ policy. The way I read DOJs is it's registered to you not your dept so it's yours as far as their conserned

[tyrist]

The department cannot seize your legally owned property which the rifle would be if you bought it and registered it.

[bluestaterebel]

The department cannot seize your legally owned property which the rifle would be if you bought it and registered it.

From my cold dead heads

[Jwood562]

The issue lies that yes it is yours but you obatained using a dept letter that states for your duties. When you leave the dept you no longer need it for your duties and you obatained the AW after the ban so you cannot keep it in that manner (AW).

you can either give them the stripped reciever or send it out of state and back in a just have it CA compliant using a simpleFFL transfer

[CavTrooper]

The issue lies that yes it is yours but you obatained using a dept letter that states for your duties. When you leave the dept you no longer need it for your duties and you obatained the AW after the ban so you cannot keep it in that manner (AW).

you can either give them the stripped reciever or send it out of state and back in a just have it CA compliant using a simpleFFL transfer

Pretty sure that you are incorrect.

If you have an dept issued weapon, they can take it back (which is the way I personally belive it should be) but once you purchase your own AR and register it, its yours, no one can take it from you.

[tyrist]

Pretty sure that you are incorrect.

If you have an dept issued weapon, they can take it back (which is the way I personally belive it should be) but once you purchase your own AR and register it, its yours, no one can take it from you.

He is 100% incorrect.

[dennis1979gm]

So only your dept can request it back not DOJ?

[tyrist]

So only your dept can request it back not DOJ?

If it is not department issue, and you privately purchased it; then you get to keep it.

[paladin4415]

The issue lies that yes it is yours but you obatained using a dept letter that states for your duties. When you leave the dept you no longer need it for your duties and you obatained the AW after the ban so you cannot keep it in that manner (AW).

you can either give them the stripped reciever or send it out of state and back in a just have it CA compliant using a simpleFFL transfer

The letter from your department only authorizes the purchase and allows registration. Once you have it registered in your name, it is yours. Your department can request all they want when you leave service, but you are under no obligation to comply.

[dennis1979gm]

I know they can request it back because I've talked to officers from different dept and that's what they said. I just wanted to know if it's a dept policy or Doj.

[cousinkix1953]

Pretty sure that you are incorrect.

If you have an dept issued weapon, they can take it back (which is the way I personally belive it should be) but once you purchase your own AR and register it, its yours, no one can take it from you.

Common sense tells me that police departments are entitled to retrieve those firearms, which they purchased with our tax dollars and provide to their employees. What kind of stupid police chief or sheriif allows his officers to flash a badge in a gun shop and purchase assault weapons with their own money? This "gimme your $1000+ AR-15 (for free) when you retire or quit" is outright grand theft...

[Ron-Solo]

The expired federal ban stated that when a LEO retired AW's Hi-Cap mags purchased using letterhead had to be surrendered. I'm not aware of anything in the state AW regs.

That could be where the confusion lies. Imagine that, some admin types don't keep up on the changes in the laws.

[Ron-Solo]

What kind of stupid police chief or sheriif allows his officers to flash a badge in a gun shop and purchase assault weapons with their own money? This "gimme your $1000+ AR-15 (for free) when you retire or quit" is outright grand theft...

You can't just flash a badge and buy an AW. It's a LOT more involved than that.

There are pros and cons to both sides of the issue.

Many departments don't have the budget to buy everyone a patrol rifle, so they allow individual officers to buy them. Having individual rifles reduces liability due to issues such as sighting in the rifle. If you are sharing a rifle with someone on another shift, you may not be aware of the sights being changed. When I have to make a critical shot where a miss could result in an innocent person being injured or killed, I want to make that shot with a rifle zeroed by ME, not someone else.

In my opinion, based on my experience, officers are more likely to care for their equipment when they pay for it themselves and they maintain a higher level of proficiency.

I wish all law abiding citizens could purchase the rifle of their choice. I've never encountered a registered AW being used in a crime by its LAWFUL owner, just ones that were stolen. There are thousands of lawfully possessed machine guns throughout the state and country. How often are those used in crimes.

I'm not opposed to registration of AW's as long as there is a realistic and accessible method to purchase and register it.