Fed LEO hand gun purchase limit

[Tree Cutter]

Like esy pointed out. If you absolutely need to purchase more than 1 in 30 days, just get your chief or whoever to write an exemption on agency letterhead. Or you can just draft it yourself and just have them sign it.

[ivane068]

Like esy pointed out. If you absolutely need to purchase more than 1 in 30 days, just get your chief or whoever to write an exemption on agency letterhead. Or you can just draft it yourself and just have them sign it.

[RickD427]

Deputy U.S. Marshals are. They are the only Fed agency that makes arrests. All others make apprehensions, there is a difference.

Federal Marshals ARE NOT California Peace Officers.

Peace officer designation is controlled by the state and no state statute provides peace officer designation to United States Marshals or their deputies.

U.S. Marshals and their deputies do possess the same powers of arrest as the does the Sheriff of the county in which they are operating (refer to 28 USC 564) but that does not empower them as peace officers of the state.

Please note that 28 USC 564 is kinda moot in California because because Penal Code section 830.8 also provides the same powers with the addition of detention authority under WIC 5150.

As a side note, please explain what you think is the difference between an "arrest" and an "apprehension" (with the corresponding statutory references). Methinks that you don't really know what you're talking about, but I'd like to hear your explanation and to see what you base it on.

[effbeeeye]

[pacrat]

As a side note, please explain what you think is the difference between an "arrest" and an "apprehension" (with the corresponding statutory references). Methinks that you don't really know what you're talking about, but I'd like to hear your explanation and to see what you base it on.

[effbeeeye]

I guess the show's over...

[Hornetsnest]

Deputy U.S. Marshals are. They are the only Fed agency that makes arrests. All others make apprehensions, there is a difference.

For debate purposes, Im going to take a guess as to what gumby means.

Im guessing he means USMS are the only Fed LEO who can "arrest" and book directly into county for state crimes.

Im guessing he believes all other Fed LEOs can only "apprehend" for state crimes they witness but must turn over the suspect (and supplemental report) to a CA LEO to be "arrested" and booked into county.



Not sure what any of this has to do with the original post about 1 in 30 for Fed LEOs LOL. But in an attempt to stay on topic, I asked my preferred FFL this exact question. He confidently stated that it doesnt apply to Feds and would get listed as LEO exempt on DROS. This FFL has been in business for a long time and Im sure has been through many audits with CA DOJ. Pretty sure he wouldn't risk his business just to hook up some Feds.

[RickD427]

For debate purposes, Im going to take a guess as to what gumby means.

Im guessing he means USMS are the only Fed LEO who can "arrest" and book directly into county for state crimes.

Im guessing he believes all other Fed LEOs can only "apprehend" for state crimes they witness but must turn over the suspect (and supplemental report) to a CA LEO to be "arrested" and booked into county.



Not sure what any of this has to do with the original post about 1 in 30 for Fed LEOs LOL. But in an attempt to stay on topic, I asked my preferred FFL this exact question. He confidently stated that it doesnt apply to Feds and would get listed as LEO exempt on DROS. This FFL has been in business for a long time and Im sure has been through many audits with CA DOJ. Pretty sure he wouldn't risk his business just to hook up some Feds.

We really need to hear from "Gumby" as to what he meant by his statement, but he seems to have gone missing from this thread.

But your conclusion above is not correct either. Federal LEO's, regardless of whether they they are Deputy U.S. Marshals, FBI agents, DEA agents, or any other alphabet agency also have the authority to make arrests under California law (refer to PC 830.8 for the source of that authority) and may deliver persons so arrested to a booking facility. There is nothing unique about the Marshal's service in that regard.

[Hornetsnest]

We really need to hear from "Gumby" as to what he meant by his statement, but he seems to have gone missing from this thread.

But your conclusion above is not correct either. Federal LEO's, regardless of whether they they are Deputy U.S. Marshals, FBI agents, DEA agents, or any other alphabet agency also have the authority to make arrests under California law (refer to PC 830.8 for the source of that authority) and may deliver persons so arrested to a booking facility. There is nothing unique about the Marshal's service in that regard.

Just my guess as to what he meant. Not really my conclusion. I agree with you but was just trying to make sense of the statement. He made a similar one in another thread and was called out, but again, he never returned to clarify.

Because like federal agents, they are not cops. They can investigate and apprehend but arrest at the federal level is reserved for the US Marshal. A couple of FBI agents found that out last year, here in California.

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1610328&page=2

[ZachB]

Okay, so even though I CAN buy more than one handgun at a time, should I? I've been told there is an extra step for the FFL doing DROs flagging the purchase and bringing attention that the purchase of more than 1 handgun occurred. Does that have any negative effect for the purchaser, like put me on "list" somewhere? Or does it not matter at all?

[esy]

If you want more than one firearm at a time, can buy more than one firearm at a time, and a shop will sell you more than one firearm at a time. Do it. You don't need a bunch of people on the internet to tell you what you want to do with your life.

When I bought my duty rifle, I didn't have a letter waiving my 10-day wait period, but the shop let me take it same day. Whatever. That's on them.

[????? ????]

Okay, so even though I CAN buy more than one handgun at a time, should I? I've been told there is an extra step for the FFL doing DROs flagging the purchase and bringing attention that the purchase of more than 1 handgun occurred. Does that have any negative effect for the purchaser, like put me on "list" somewhere? Or does it not matter at all?

I assume this is a reference to the ATF requirement of the FFL filing a Form 3310.4 for the purchase of multiple handguns, or the Form 3310.12