friend denied/delayed gun after 15 days cuz DOJ was "back logged"

[bronco1500]

My friend who is also LEO purchased a 365 and was working on day ten of the wait period and went to pick up a few days later. When at the Police Supply store the staff informed her that she could NOT leave with her pistol because the DOJ had not cleared the pistol for release due to them being "Back logged"

I know Covid is causing all kinds of problems, but is this..."legal"...?

Id love to hear from those with more knowledge than me.

Thanks

[Ishooter]

Is is a delay or a denial? DOJ is pushing for 30 days. FPC is working on to correct it.

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/firearmspolicycoalition/pages/4988/attachments/original/1586906151/2020-4-14-ca-ag-doj-cease-and-desist-unlawful-policy-delays.pdf?1586906151

[Fastattack]

You give the gubermint an inch and ... you get what you get.

[taperxz]

My friend who is also LEO purchased a 365 and was working on day ten of the wait period and went to pick up a few days later. When at the Police Supply store the staff informed her that she could NOT leave with her pistol because the DOJ had not cleared the pistol for release due to them being "Back logged"

I know Covid is causing all kinds of problems, but is this..."legal"...?

Id love to hear from those with more knowledge than me.

Thanks

I’m an FFL. Your post here has nothing to do with being a LE Officer other than the firearm is off roster. If your friend would have gotten a letter waiving the 10 day wait, they would have their Sig. DOJ is claiming a backlog due to overwhelming transfers. It’s happening to everyone. Your friend wasn’t denied

[bronco1500]

Im assuming this issue is only in California not in the free parts of the country

[Garv]

Im assuming this issue is only in California not in the free parts of the country

Sounds like a delay due to the record number of purchases recently.

If it is an actual denial, different problem.

[bronco1500]

Has this happened before....? Ive been into guns for more than 3 decades and I cant remember a "delay" in release procedures before.....

[Garv]

Has this happened before....? Ive been into guns for more than 3 decades and I cant remember a "delay" in release procedures before.....

We get threads here often enough about DOJ putting in a delay and not responding within the 30 days.

Many FFLs will not release on undetermined so we try to tell people to go to those that do just in case.

In some cases they had common names and another with the same name had a prohibition of some kind.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

This also happened to me the other day. I arrived at the LGS where a handgun had been about 13 days in DROS. Per current situation I had to sign in and go wait in my vehicle to be called. The wait was not long, perhaps 15 minutes.

I went inside and the sales guy dug out the pistol from the back. Within a minute or two I was advised that the DROS was "delayed". This LGS is not close to my home or work so I was none too happy about leaving empty handed.

I let the sales guy know I knew this was not their fault and all was well. I was promised a call to notify when it was clear to pick up, but it has been another 3 days and I haven't been notified yet.

I can understand everything is screwed up right now due to Covid-19, but I do not know if there have been any furloughs or closures of the state DOJ that would justify this delay.

[M1NM]

Im assuming this issue is only in California not in the free parts of the country

CA uses the same federal database. The rest of the country can clear you in 5 minutes or less. It's just CA screwing with gun owners. I still can't figure out why current owners have to wait 10 days. I get the cooling off period BS but what do they think? I don't want to shoot the person I'm POed at with one of my current guns so I'll go buy a different one????

[Just-in]

[Featureless]

It is my understanding that, in absence of a denial within the 10 day (10 24 hour periods), there is nothing in the law to prevent the buyer taking possession of the firearm, is that correct?

IOW, if they can't get it done within the 10 day period, that's too damn bad.

IIRC, Kamala Harris pulled this ****, was taken to court and lost, is that correct?

Because it looks like DOJ -Becerra - overstepping his authority.

[P5Ret]

It is my understanding that, in absence of a denial within the 10 day (10 24 hour periods), there is nothing in the law to prevent the buyer taking possession of the firearm, is that correct?

IOW, if they can't get it done within the 10 day period, that's too damn bad.

IIRC, Kamala Harris pulled this ****, was taken to court and lost, is that correct?

Because it looks like DOJ -Becerra - overstepping his authority.

You are not going to get any FFL to release before the system allows them to release it. They simply are not going to risk their license and business.

[Atomic Donut]

Just picked up a rifle after an 18 day waiting period. It sucks and ALL residents of this state need to remember this come Voting time. As for future pistol purchases for you and your friend, highly recommend just getting a 10-day waiver letter to skip the nonsense.

[Featureless]

You are not going to get any FFL to release before the system allows them to release it. They simply are not going to risk their license and business.

That wasn't the question. The question is, what is the law governing the release of a firearm after the 10 day period? ie, DOJ notification to the FFL, etc.
It has been my understanding that if a denial is not received within the 10 day period, there is no prohibition in the law against releasing the firearm.