AR pistol

[ugimports]

I think it's great that we can buy AR pistols as Leo but what about another type of pistol. Such as the hk mp5 pistol.

If it's CA legal, sure why not.

[Milsurp1]

Have the MP5 sent to a middleman FFL like Audiophil2 or EBRworks for maglock and ten round magazine. Then they can ship it to your CA FFL.

[nooner34]

Is there any California specific regulations stating the lower must be marked as a pistol? Did a PPT last week and I was just informed by the lgs that the DOJ is asking them to hold the lower, stating that the lower should have never been registered as a semi-auto pistol. The lgs made reference to the lower not being marked "pistol". The lower is a Aero M4E1 and was registered as a exempt handgun sale of a semi-automatic pistol, frame/receiver only. Idon't have anything in writing or further clarification at this time.

[ugimports]

Is there any California specific regulations stating the lower must be marked as a pistol? Did a PPT last week and I was just informed by the lgs that the DOJ is asking them to hold the lower, stating that the lower should have never been registered as a semi-auto pistol. The lgs made reference to the lower not being marked "pistol". The lower is a Aero M4E1 and was registered as a exempt handgun sale of a semi-automatic pistol, frame/receiver only. Idon't have anything in writing or further clarification at this time.

No.. It can be marked Nuke. The issue might be if the person you purchased it from originally had it DROSd as a long gun.

I've transferred AR lowers to people several times either to LEO exempt or via PPT to regular folks. Has not been an issue so far.

[nooner34]

I am the original purchaser, it was a virgin lower. Now I'm wondering if the dros was done incorrect when I initially got it.

[ugimports]

I am the original purchaser, it was a virgin lower. Now I'm wondering if the dros was done incorrect when I initially got it.

What is originally DROSd to you as an exempt handgun frame? If yes, I don't see any issue with you selling it as such from our past experience.

[nooner34]

Here is the original DROS

[ugimports]

Here is the original DROS

We have not had an issue with ones DROSd like that before. Has nothing to do with the markings on the receiver though.

[Milsurp1]

[SkyHawk]

The buyer was exempt? (LEO)

[Milsurp1]

I am not fluent with DROS menus, but I thought that an exempt buyer is annotated differently than an exempt gun.

[ugimports]

I am not fluent with DROS menus, but I thought that an exempt buyer is annotated differently than an exempt gun.

All the selections do is pre-fill in some fields. So an Exempt Gun selection can be used for transactions such as:
* LEO (off-roster stuff)
* Interstate Intrafamily (off-roster stuff)
* Single Shot Pistols (such as Thompson Contender or new built SSE AR pistols or race guns)

Now WHO you transfer those to is what the human FFL has to deal with with keeping paperwork for audit.

E.g., anyone can receive the last 2 bullets. But the 1st bullet obviously I'd have some additional documentation noting agency, etc.. and typically LEO will have an FSC exemption as well.

[Milsurp1]

[ugimports]

Correct. Come audit time if they ask about it and then you have no backup docs that the person was an LEO or that it was otherwise legal (intrafamilial transfer for example) then you'd be in violation.

[nooner34]

Just cleared this up with my lgs, who thankfully pushed back against the DOJ. They did confirm it was all hearsay and nothing documented on the lower having to be marked. Appreciate everyone's help.