LASD Level 1-D Reserves

[micro911]

As a retired member, you're probably one of the best sources to bring new folks into the department. We've suffered from too many bad hires in recent years. You're well suited to spot young folks with the qualities to become excellent deputies, and to help them prepare to compete for the positions.

You are right. I try to help recruiting good ones. I do not recommend just anyone. My former trainer at the LA Fitness became a deputy with my recommendation last year. He almost killed me with routines at the gym. I saw him in the academy class when I was teaching an LD. It was kind of fun to pick on him couple of times.

[pitbuljake]

Yea, I recall when you retired, Micro. I think it's just an email blast.

The typical primary difference between Level 1 and 1D is completion of the Field Training (I don't think this qualifies them to receive their POST Basic though). 1D's pretty much function as FT, but without the FT pay/bennies. I would think that most agencies hire from their R/O pools before branching out.

I do know that some agencies 1D's are typically retirees that come back to work part-time. Then again, there are also those "Weekend Warriors" who make a lot of dough in the private industry, but want to do some good in the streets.

I beg to differ regarding hiring from within the Reserve Officer ranks. I know from experience that all the South Bay cities (Torrance, Hawthorne, etc) don't give any preferential treatment, they treat Reserve Officers like anyone else off the street.


One would think just the opposite. A department has a perfect opportunity to recruit from the best Reserves they themselves hired and trained, this includes Level 1's, but sadly they don't. Though I have personally seen and have knowledge of nepotism at it's finest!


At my former agency, the chiefs son was hired, got injured in the academy and recycled. He still works there to my knowledge. I seen others in like circumstance get the boot. Other full time officers sons/daughters got hired, had issues during training and still made probation, and some of them just shouldn't be out there.

Jake

[Tallship]

I don't know if some of you are getting the distinction between Level I and I-D. Level I has all the training of a full-time RBC officer and functions the same when on duty, but he only has peace officer status when on duty. A I-D reserve has peace officer status 24/7.

[RickD427]

I don't know if some of you are getting the distinction between Level I and I-D. Level I has all the training of a full-time RBC officer and functions the same when on duty, but he only has peace officer status when on duty. A I-D reserve has peace officer status 24/7.

^^^THIS^^^^

Level One reserves are appointed under Penal Code section 830.6.

Level One (Designated) reserves are appointed under Penal Code section 830.1.

[1911_sfca]

This is good to hear. Many smart agencies draw from their reserve pool to recruit full-timers.

There's some confusion here because the former training requirements for reserves were significantly different than they are now. Anyone who was appointed as a level I in the 21st century had to finish the exact same training as a full time deputy - the regular basic course.

As mentioned, the only different between Level 1 and Level 1-D is that the city council (or county supervisors) have passed an ordinance / resolution authorizing designated level 1s, and the department has appointed that individual as a 1-D. Many departments do this after FTO is completed. Level 1-D deputies get the same 24-hour authority as PC 832.1 - appointed full-time deputies, as described in PC 830.6(a)(2).

My department requires reserves to finish FTO after 1 year, and it's not that hard if you come in 1 day a week and run a shift.

There was a question about Basic certificates. You can't get a basic cert unless you're full-time, paid. However, once you have been sworn as a reserve, you can leave and come back, and if it's within 3 years, you don't have to meet the current training requirements. If you leave longer than 3 years, you have to complete a requalification course, and meet current training requirements (i.e. if you did module A/B/C/D, you're going back to the academy for RBC).

If you finish the RBC but were never picked up, you can complete the requal once after 3 years. If you still aren't hired within six years (since RBC), your RBC expires and you have to do the full academy again.

[micro911]

There are definitely some good Level 1D reserves out there. I do not mind working with them. I like to see them become regular deputies.