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  • ht4318
    Junior Member
    • May 2014
    • 8

    Starting the academy

    Hello all,

    I'm starting the police academy as a self-sponsored recruit in January. I was seeing if any one of you guys had a Sig P320 full size 9mm for sale. I just wanted to use it for the academy. I'm located in the bay area. Thanks!
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    Icypu
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 1051

    I don't know if you really need to have such a fancy gun for basic academy. Especially if you self sponsor and have no idea what agency will end up picking you up. While the P320 is a Striker Fired gun, that might be the most similarity that you will have with what issued to you by the time you get signed off. Also since you're paying your whole way and you still might have to buy $3000 or $4,000 of quality drill and Academy gear, I don't think it's wise to pay the inflated market-driven prices of the Calguns Marketplace.

    I'll give you two options and suggestions. Option 1 go to a Glock Blue Label dealer and ask nicely if they would sell you and on roster Glock 19. This way you'll get a generation 3 and you'll probably end up paying around $450 tops. I know some FFL will do this for you if you show your Academy ID. If not go ahead and snag a used Glock 19 on the marketplace and bargain around four hundred bucks. With the four thousand rounds you're going to fire in the academy you wouldn't know the difference between a new Glock at the beginning and a used one at the end. Your wallet will sure know. Just FYI if you go the used route do not get Bubba's gun don't be that guy with the hot iron stippling and the Apex Trigger and get tore up.

    If you frankly have too much money and you absolutely must get an off roster gun just to learn how to shoot the Leo way, pick up a generation 1 M&P 9 mm. This gun I know for a fact is used and at least three major California Post agencies and the muscle memory will take you far.

    Hope this helps good luck and do not quit.
    Last edited by Icypu; 10-29-2018, 11:48 PM.

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    • #4
      Luis650ar15
      Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 243

      Will you be attending the CSM academy in Jan?

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      • #5
        hmvan
        Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 304

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        • #6
          P5Ret
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2010
          • 6391

          I'll echo the sentiment of other's, that it's better to have a basic plain Jane handgun. Pick up what you want after you get hired, and have an idea of what you can carry on duty.

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          • #7
            jc0311
            Member
            • Jul 2009
            • 201

            Buy a gen 3 Glock 17 or 19. Upgrade the sights and your good to go.

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            • #8
              1911su16b870
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Dec 2006
              • 7654

              The goal of the Academy is to make you mentally tough (safe and ability to make sound decisions under stress).

              Your mindset should be focused on getting through the academy (mental and physical preparedness). Your resolve to graduate should be 100%. Everyone in your personal life should buy in to you attending and willing to support you as you move forward in the academy, with an LEA, during field training, probation and once active duty.

              Regarding firearms, train with whatever you have and become great with it. I believe 40-60% of LEAs issue Glocks, so the 3rd Gen G17 is good advice.
              "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

              NRA Endowment Life Member, CRPA Life Member
              GLOCK (Gen 1-5, G42/43), Colt AR15/M16/M4, Sig P320, Sig P365, Beretta 90 series, Remington 870, HK UMP Factory Armorer
              Remington Nylon, 1911, HK, Ruger, Hudson H9 Armorer, just for fun!
              I instruct it if you shoot it.

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              • #9
                Country_Jim
                Member
                • Feb 2014
                • 346

                Originally posted by 1911su16b870
                The goal of the Academy is to make you mentally tough (safe and ability to make sound decisions under stress).

                Your mindset should be focused on getting through the academy (mental and physical preparedness). Your resolve to graduate should be 100%. Everyone in your personal life should buy in to you attending and willing to support you as you move forward in the academy, with an LEA, during field training, probation and once active duty.

                Regarding firearms, train with whatever you have and become great with it. I believe 40-60% of LEAs issue Glocks, so the 3rd Gen G17 is good advice.
                Op, read this post twice. It is great advice.

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                • #10
                  Galli1565
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 799

                  Buy a G17 and call it a day.
                  Certified Colt 1911 Armorer // Certified Glock Armorer // Certified M&P Armorer

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                  • #11
                    code_blue
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 3452

                    Originally posted by 1911su16b870
                    The goal of the Academy is to make you mentally tough (safe and ability to make sound decisions under stress).

                    Your mindset should be focused on getting through the academy (mental and physical preparedness). Your resolve to graduate should be 100%. Everyone in your personal life should buy in to you attending and willing to support you as you move forward in the academy, with an LEA, during field training, probation and once active duty.

                    Regarding firearms, train with whatever you have and become great with it. I believe 40-60% of LEAs issue Glocks, so the 3rd Gen G17 is good advice.

                    Mirror this. Start consolidating your friends and family now. If you're heading down this path, you should know who you should not associate with.


                    To your question, ditch the P320 idea. Once you start your academy bring proof of enrollment (registration if tied to a college, academy letterhead, etc...) to a Glock Blue Label dealer and get yourself a G17 Gen 3. It will come with 3 10-rnd magazines and will be approximately under $500 OTD.

                    That being said, I was not aware that there were still academies that required you to obtain your own firearm. Many require that you use theirs unless you're sponsored by another department.

                    Good luck to you.

                    EDIT: You already have a G22 according to your WTB thread. Just use that or get a conversion barrel and mags. Why focus on something not important? Your firearm should be the least of your worries.


                    Originally posted by ht4318
                    Hello,

                    I am starting the police academy in January as a self-sponsored. Would like to purchase a Sig P320 Nitron in 9mm full sized before I start to use for the academy. I am willing to pay cash or trade/cash combo.

                    I have a

                    S&W M&P Shield Ca compliant in 9mm
                    Glock 22 with extended slide release and truglo fiber optic sights
                    Remington 700 in 30-06
                    Remington 870 standard
                    Last edited by code_blue; 10-30-2018, 3:45 PM.
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                    Radian & Aero Pistol lowers, Folsom

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                    • #12
                      CinnamonBear723
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 1874

                      +1 for the glock 17 gen 3. An added bonus is there are plenty of holsters in existence for it. I self sponsored in an academy down here in Orange County and went thru it with a g17 just fine. In fact I only missed top shot by one point. Glocks are easy to clean and user friendly. With all the other nonsense you will be dealing with, the easier you can make things on yourself the better.

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                      • #13
                        phroggunner
                        Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 225

                        I'm not a a huge fan of Glock...but get a Glock.

                        You will be able to learn all the fundamentals, and have a reliable and reasonably priced pistol that will most likely be what your future agency issues anyway.

                        Train like you fight.

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                        • #14
                          Just-in
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 2176

                          What academy will you be attending?

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                          • #15
                            ht4318
                            Junior Member
                            • May 2014
                            • 8

                            Just did DROS for a G17 blue label deal. Thanks for the advice all. Will be attending South Bay Regional Public Training Consortium.

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