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  • John172
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2014
    • 71

    OCSD or DJCO?

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    RollingCode3
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 3221

    With no military background, law enforcement background, and college degree you will have a tough time getting ocsd to hire you. You will have to compete with a lot of people younger than you with college degrees. Even with DJCo position, a lot of them with BA or BS degree. Just my two cents.
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      John172
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2014
      • 71

      Originally posted by RollingCode3
      With no military background, law enforcement background, and college degree you will have a tough time getting ocsd to hire you. You will have to compete with a lot of people younger than you with college degrees. Even with DJCo position, a lot of them with BA or BS degree. Just my two cents.
      Thank You for your response and input! I know it will be an uphill, or Mount Everest battle I should say, more so for me because of the things you pointed out.

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        CinnamonBear723
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 1874

        It seems you have more of a passion for youths. You might be happier overall sticking with that.

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        • #5
          esy
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 1191

          I’d recommend researching both departments and the job descriptions of both. What interests you more and what do you have more of a passion for?

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            John172
            Junior Member
            • Sep 2014
            • 71

            Originally posted by CinnamonBear723
            It seems you have more of a passion for youths. You might be happier overall sticking with that.

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              John172
              Junior Member
              • Sep 2014
              • 71

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              • #8
                TacopsDep417
                Banned
                • Mar 2017
                • 320

                John172 if you have very good interest in a Deputy Sheriff position that is challenging, I would say you should apply to LASD. Try to get to stations such as century, compton, south LA ( Lennox), Palmdale, and Lancaster. Those are challenging assignments for the beganing of any deputies career.

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                • #9
                  CBR_rider
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 2698

                  Gettin ready to leave so sorry this is kinda short:

                  Have you considered agencies that have positions such as SRO's? You could eventually perhaps land one of those gigs but still have other opportunities if you want a change of pace. Obviously you will also get your feet wet in what will more likely be a more challenging environment.

                  If I had to go solely based on what you wrote in your OP I would probably work for DJCO.
                  Originally posted by bwiese
                  [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
                  Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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                  • #10
                    Shadowdrop
                    Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 495

                    I was a DJCO in OC for a while. It's fairly low-paying and not really LE. I worked at the toughest facility (Joplin) and it was rewarding, but it was sort of small potatoes in the grand scheme. I worked with a few box of rocks, too. OCSD custody can be mind-numbing and not all that rewarding. Patrol is more rewarding but they aren't exactly cream of the crop in that role. Their detectives and specialty units are better. I'm now a city detective and I love it (mostly).

                    If those are your choices, work OCSD and look to work to a spot you really want. Although there's lots of applicants these days, a huge portion are worthless millennial that cannot function in the real world. Sell yourself on life experience. Lots of places hiring these days....

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                    • #11
                      esy
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 1191

                      I wouldn’t sell yourself too short, John. Like others have mentioned, life experience means a good amount. While it more than likely won’t get you promoted or pay incentives, it’s worth a great deal.

                      Most jobs will afford you some time to finish your degree so I highly recommend that. I’ll probably start working on finishing my Master’s pretty soon so there’s always a chance.

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                      • #12
                        John172
                        Junior Member
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 71

                        Originally posted by TacopsDep417
                        John172 if you have very good interest in a Deputy Sheriff position that is challenging, I would say you should apply to LASD. Try to get to stations such as century, compton, south LA ( Lennox), Palmdale, and Lancaster. Those are challenging assignments for the beganing of any deputies career.

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                        • #13
                          John172
                          Junior Member
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 71

                          Originally posted by CBR_rider
                          Gettin ready to leave so sorry this is kinda short:

                          Have you considered agencies that have positions such as SRO's? You could eventually perhaps land one of those gigs but still have other opportunities if you want a change of pace. Obviously you will also get your feet wet in what will more likely be a more challenging environment.

                          If I had to go solely based on what you wrote in your OP I would probably work for DJCO.

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                          • #14
                            John172
                            Junior Member
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 71

                            Originally posted by Shadowdrop
                            I was a DJCO in OC for a while. It's fairly low-paying and not really LE. I worked at the toughest facility (Joplin) and it was rewarding, but it was sort of small potatoes in the grand scheme. I worked with a few box of rocks, too. OCSD custody can be mind-numbing and not all that rewarding. Patrol is more rewarding but they aren't exactly cream of the crop in that role. Their detectives and specialty units are better. I'm now a city detective and I love it (mostly).

                            If those are your choices, work OCSD and look to work to a spot you really want. Although there's lots of applicants these days, a huge portion are worthless millennial that cannot function in the real world. Sell yourself on life experience. Lots of places hiring these days....
                            When you were a DJCO, did you have to take an agility test and more importantly, do you recall anyone being disqualified for medical reasons (I.e Diabetic or hypertension)? What age were you when you were in that position?

                            Thank you for responding, and that would be my goal should I make it in OCSD. The best I can do is sell myself on my trouble free background, contributing to my community serving youth in a non-paid role (hopefully they have some admiration for that).

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                            • #15
                              CBR_rider
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 2698

                              Some counties have SRO positions; they don't belong exclusively in the realm of PD's. Some districts even have their own departments; but that would probably defeat the purpose of NOT working for DJCO since you really wouldn't have much else to do besides deal with school issues.

                              Assignment depends on the agency: I would assume you would have to be off probation first; after that it could be a mandatory "low man on the totem pole" gig or it could be one you would have to apply/interview for. Probably like anything else; sometimes promotions/changes in assignment in the LEO world are more about timing than anything else: Get off probation and be working on a good name for yourself when your agency picks up a school contract for 8 positions/have a mandatory assignment rotation for those same 8 spots (and only has 8 folks put in for them) and you could get the spot right quick. Work for an agency that doesn't have any kind of mandatory rotations and you might have all the spots filled with old timers who are going to sit in them until they retire.

                              Other than perhaps putting in for SRO and having some kind of expected duration of assignment/rotation schedule at your particular agency(2-4 years would probably cover just about all of those), you would get the spot until you are booted out or tire of it. There are good reasons for some folks to work at small agencies and there are good reasons for some folks to work at medium/large agencies; the availability of various assignments is certainly one of those things to take into consideration.
                              Originally posted by bwiese
                              [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
                              Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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