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  • 45 Shootist
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2016
    • 12

    Border Patrol Agent Open Carry ?

    My daughter is going through a divorce with a B.P. Agent. He from time to time open carries his service weapon with his badge on his belt in civilian cloths to intimidate her or others
    . Can anyone tell me if there is B.P. Policy that states that off duty carry must have the weapon covered. This is in California...Thanks.
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    Rogue187
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2007
    • 1157

    Originally posted by 45 Shootist
    My daughter is going through a divorce with a B.P. Agent. He from time to time open carries his service weapon with his badge on his belt in civilian cloths to intimidate her or others

    . Can anyone tell me if there is B.P. Policy that states that off duty carry must have the weapon covered. This is in California...Thanks.


    If you want to complain about it you can just call his station and ask for the Supervisory Agent. Then you can ask that person the question.




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    • #3
      45 Shootist
      Junior Member
      • Nov 2016
      • 12

      They are not able to tell me much. Either they are not sure of policy or they don't want to answer. I'm a retired California LEO, now living in the free state of Idaho. Not being anywhere near a California BP station (or any BP station, I can't just go in and press for an answer like I would like to do). I feel for those of you stuck in Kali. So nice to be able to drive down the road, 40 round mag in an AR-15, one in the chamber, sitting in the front seat without even having to have a CCW or hunting license.
      Last edited by 45 Shootist; 04-06-2018, 6:12 PM.

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      • #4
        CBR_rider
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 2761

        Originally posted by 45 Shootist
        They are not able to tell me much. Either they are not sure of policy or they don't want to answer. I'm a retired California LEO, now living in the free state of Idaho. Not being anywhere near a California BP station (or any BP station, I can't just go in and press for an answer like I would like to do). I feel for those of you stuck in Kali. So nice to be able to drive down the road, 40 round mag in an AR-15, one in the chamber, sitting in the front seat without even having to have a CCW or hunting license.
        Originally posted by bwiese
        [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
        Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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        • #5
          chsk9
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2006
          • 1357

          LOL

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          • #6
            Endless
            Banned
            • Feb 2010
            • 1881

            N/m
            Last edited by Endless; 04-07-2018, 12:01 PM.

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            • #7
              Sikvenum93
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2014
              • 2181

              Wise men seldom speak. - Arcus

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              • #8
                Endless
                Banned
                • Feb 2010
                • 1881

                Originally posted by Sikvenum93
                Border Patrol Agents are LEOs and covered by LEOSA.

                If he’s actually said or done something threatening beyond legally carrying his weapon, your daughter should seek a restraining order against him.


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                For many years Border Patrol Agents were not recognized as LEO in the state of California. My buddies with CHP couldn’t believe it. That was in the 2000s.

                Now it appears they finally are recognized. It’s about damn time.

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                • #9
                  Rogue187
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 1157



                  Your buddies must have ignored some training in the penal code.

                  Border Patrol Agents fit under PC 830.8(b).
                  A lot of Federal Law Enforcement fits under that section of the Penal Code.



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                  • #10
                    hey_scooter
                    Member
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 139

                    This has very little to do with him and his law enforcement powers and everything to do with your daughter speaking to her divorce attorney about it. This is why lawyers exist.

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                    • #11
                      Frank1911
                      Member
                      • Mar 2016
                      • 121

                      Originally posted by hey_scooter
                      This has very little to do with him and his law enforcement powers and everything to do with your daughter speaking to her divorce attorney about it. This is why lawyers exist.
                      Amen........

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                      • #12
                        Dvrjon
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 11370

                        LEOSA allows concealed carry; it doesn't cover open carry.

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                        • #13
                          Jared1981
                          Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 278

                          Originally posted by Dvrjon
                          LEOSA allows concealed carry; it doesn't cover open carry.
                          Border Patrol also carries under 8 USC 1357 and 19 USC 1589. This has nothing to do with LEOSA and has been around long before LEOSA. There are no places off limits under these sections, just a couple of obscure locations under federal law.

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                          • #14
                            Bunyfofu69
                            Member
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 168

                            Originally posted by 45 Shootist
                            My daughter is going through a divorce with a B.P. Agent. He from time to time open carries his service weapon with his badge on his belt in civilian cloths to intimidate her or others
                            . Can anyone tell me if there is B.P. Policy that states that off duty carry must have the weapon covered. This is in California...Thanks.
                            The Chief Patrol Agent can restrict open carry under policy (must be covered).

                            Example: Going out in public not in RDU, must be covered. (Suit or plain clothes).

                            Different sectors, different rules. It's adminstrative.

                            If he is part of a unit where a polo is the uniform of the day (prosecutions, PIO, IG, etc) then generally it's open carry with badge and 5.11 pants.

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                            • #15
                              TrailerparkTrash
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 4249

                              Open carry while off duty with his badge exposed?? Sounds like a real winner.

                              I’ll bet he’s one of those “adults” that is on Facebook every single day posting pictures of stupid krap and telling the world how wonderful he is. All just to see how many “likes” (or whatever they’re called on Facebook) he gets every day.

                              Sadly, a few of my “adult” coworkers are just as moronic and do the same thing. Very juvenile.
                              Last edited by TrailerparkTrash; 04-08-2018, 9:14 PM.
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