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Any info on this? Word on the street is headquarters is already starting to implement them for special units & eventually replace the Mini-14 (similar to the Glock 22 implementation). I wonder how many Wardens would sign off for a standard issue AR to their cops if this is the case.
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Originally Posted by American Samurai
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General public person here but got a question....
Why would a warden balk at replacing a Mini-14 with an AR15? Both are 5.56 firearms so there isn't any additional "power" there. 30 round magazines were made for both, etc. The only thing I can think of is that wardens may be concerned with the "evil black weapon" syndrome. Is that what you are getting at?
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Maybe because they want to modify the firearms to a specific mission. AR-15s can be reconfigured to suit many different applications. That is my guess.
My daughter is a corrections officer in another state and she said she was trained with a department issued H&K G33 rifle.Last edited by micro911; 06-24-2017, 10:45 AM.Comment
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I dont think they would spend the money on it. But if they do, it wont happen for another 10-15 years. CDC is always about 10 years behind everyone else. Besides the Mini's work just fine, I havent seen one inmate walk away from it after being shot.Aim small, Hit small
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Word on the street is......
Thanks I needed a laugh.......
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But have you google and searched for the RFP?
Like all public entities.... most of what they do is published online....
If they want to replace the Ruger, they will proceed with a Request for Proposal.... so the public procurement process can start....
Last edited by hermosabeach; 06-24-2017, 11:46 AM.Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED
Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)
Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET
Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
(thanks to Jeff Cooper)Comment
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The Wardens don't really have much say in the matter if they transition everything State wide. The firearms do not go home with employees and generally stay at the facilities. The issue I am curious about is that, currently, guards can go buy a Mini-14 to practice in their off time for qualifications & upkeep of their PC832. The only way to own a standard AR-15, to ensure marksmanship upkeep, would be for his or her assigned Warden to sign off on each officer owning one, which they will likely never do. Then what happens when everyone fails the new qualification with the AR, but they don't have access to one to train with? This could be very interesting.Originally Posted by American Samurai
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Cdcr just spent a boat load of money buying the g22 and training thousands of officers to use it, I doubt they will want to spend all that money to switch out the mini any time soon.
But over time I can see how they'd save money. Even if they went with a ruger 556, each rifle would be half as much as a mini and replacement parts for the AR platform are abundant and cheap.Comment
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No need the Mini-14 works just fine and they drop inmates just like any AR-15 would.Last edited by cuchillo negro; 07-10-2017, 12:16 AM."Not everyone can be a U.S. Marine that is why there is the Army, Navy and Air Force"Comment
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Not happening, only for specialized units, not for the prison officers on the line.
The department wont spend the $$ for a tool they don't really need. Also, racking a round in the Mini has a distinct sound which has stopped incidents on it's own. Just like racking a shotgun in a home, in a prison this is actually a GOOD THING, to let those around know **** is getting real.Comment
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Why would they want to replace a standard mediocre weapon with a more expensive weapon that might actually hit the inmates? Besides that the AR15 looks really scary and would intimidate the poor inmates. Money would be better spent on transgender medical operations and collage for lifers.Comment
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Don't know if true or not, haven't heard anything. CRT(swat) at all institutions have had AR's or CAR-15's for well over a decade, not to mention SSU.
Will be shooting with a CDC rangemaster in a couple weeks, I'll ask him what he knows.
The mini 14's at the institutions are pretty darn old and worn. Could be they are becoming more trouble to maintain then they are worth. Might as well go with the more modern and universally used gun, you can buy AR's for less then Mini's right now and replacement parts are less expensive and more readily available.Last edited by stormvet; 08-05-2017, 11:31 PM.Im a warmonger baby, I got blood in my eyes and I'm looking at you.Comment
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