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  • CPRAFAN
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 1260

    Police Shortage Hits Cities and Small Towns Across the Country

    "Law enforcement: It's a tough job but somebody's got to do it. But what happens when no one wants to be that somebody?

    Numerous police departments around the country are desperately losing manpower with decreasing numbers of officers and recruits. Law enforcement is becoming less of a desirable career choice due to diminishing pay, high risk, and of course a recent bad rap — a trend that could put public safety at risk, say policing experts.

    The current shortage afflicts police forces from large metropolitan hubs to rural towns . . . "

    Several of the nation’s police departments are desperately losing manpower with decreasing numbers of officers and recruits.


    No problem - the new Robocops and ED-209s will hit the streets in a year or two. OCP to the rescue!
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    CinnamonBear723
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 1874

    It was only a matter of time. With so much animosity and hatred toward a profession that pays a blue collar wage, why would anyone sign up these days. Even if you have a moral compass to help others, you can do any number of professions where you aren't constantly scrutinized for doing a job that most cannot do, or understand how to do it.

    You make one decision that doesn't look good, even if it's the right one, the court of public opinion and cry baby criminal liberals will call for your head and unfortunately politicians and even judges will fold like a cheap suit under the pressure for fear of losing they seats at the royal court.

    If that's not bad enough, now they are taking away our pensions little by little until retired cops are gunna have to get jobs mixing paint at Home Depot just to make ends meat. And that's only if you don't get shot to death or die in a car crash before you get to retirement.

    It's not hard to understand why there is a shortage. And I only touched on a few issues. There are more out there.

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    • #3
      Country_Jim
      Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 346

      Originally posted by CinnamonBear723
      It was only a matter of time. With so much animosity and hatred toward a profession that pays a blue collar wage, why would anyone sign up these days. Even if you have a moral compass to help others, you can do any number of professions where you aren't constantly scrutinized for doing a job that most cannot do, or understand how to do it.

      You make one decision that doesn't look good, even if it's the right one, the court of public opinion and cry baby criminal liberals will call for your head and unfortunately politicians and even judges will fold like a cheap suit under the pressure for fear of losing they seats at the royal court.

      If that's not bad enough, now they are taking away our pensions little by little until retired cops are gunna have to get jobs mixing paint at Home Depot just to make ends meat. And that's only if you don't get shot to death or die in a car crash before you get to retirement.

      It's not hard to understand why there is a shortage. And I only touched on a few issues. There are more out there.
      That about sums it up.

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      • #4
        CBR_rider
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 2666

        Originally posted by CinnamonBear723
        It was only a matter of time.....
        Good points. It's not all bad and I think there are worse careers out there; but this career field in particular nowadays has LEO's running a heightened risk of doing the right thing and still being vilified/without of a career due to the court of public opinion.
        Originally posted by bwiese
        [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
        Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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        • #5
          Samuelx
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 1558

          Originally posted by CBR_rider
          Good points. It's not all bad and I think there are worse careers out there; but this career field in particular nowadays has LEO's running a heightened risk of doing the right thing and still being vilified/without of a career due to the court of public opinion or clueless upper management.
          fixed it for ya

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          • #6
            CBR_rider
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 2666

            Originally posted by Samuelx
            fixed it for ya
            Critical oversight on my part, thanks!! It's sad but true
            Originally posted by bwiese
            [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
            Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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            • #7
              Spanky8601
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 2176

              Clueless Upper Management will solve the problem by engaging in a hiring strategy like LAPD when they hired the likes of Raphael Perez of Rampart fame.
              May I always be the type of person my dog thinks I am

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              • #8
                oddjob
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2003
                • 2364

                I'm retired, but I still know folks in agencies and I hear the same thing over and over.....Candidates can't pass the background investigations. The ones that do pass can't pass probation. I met one "officer" who lasted 20 hours and then resigned.

                It will get worse too. As more retire its getting that much harder to back fill the positions.

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                • #9
                  M1NM
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 7966

                  Snowflakes need not apply. Obummers embracement of the BLM BS. Tough job - it's not the ideal helping people job you desire but one dealing with the scum of humankind. Also shift work sucks. Maybe a good place for a lot of refugees - look at where the Irish found a home when they first came here in the mid-late 1800s. Boston, NY 100+ year history of Irish cops. Of course with the recent refugees we'd need to also switch to sharia law.

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                  • #10
                    Ford8N
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 6129

                    Originally posted by oddjob
                    I'm retired, but I still know folks in agencies and I hear the same thing over and over.....Candidates can't pass the background investigations. The ones that do pass can't pass probation. I met one "officer" who lasted 20 hours and then resigned.

                    It will get worse too. As more retire its getting that much harder to back fill the positions.
                    ^^^^^ Not everyone is a devout Mormon, everyone has a little "history". EVERYONE. So lighten up on the background check and you will have more candidates.

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                    • #11
                      RedVines
                      Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 463

                      My dept "lightened up". They hired someone with three misd (647f deuce) and two felony arrests (DV and 261). He casually mentioned it to his FTO as they drove past the scene of his arrest.

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                      • #12
                        CinnamonBear723
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 1874

                        Originally posted by Ford8N
                        ^^^^^ Not everyone is a devout Mormon, everyone has a little "history". EVERYONE. So lighten up on the background check and you will have more candidates.
                        Our department has the ability to overlook a lot. Its not about lightening up. Everyone i work with has "History" but they were honest about it and put time and distance between mistakes made. In fact, i would argue that people with some life experience do better and understand how to interact with people better than someone who was a police explorer at 14 and went to the academy at 20 1/2. Not that its a bad thing to have done that, but from what ive experienced, guys who start in their late 20's whove gone out and worked other jobs, and maybe made a mistake or two along the way, tend to do much better.

                        We still have a tough time finding good people that can first pass the background, then pass training. You would be surprised how bad some candidates are. You also have to factor in how low you are willing to set the bar just to get warm bodies in radio cars. I doubt the public would be happy if we started lowering it too much.

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                        • #13
                          stormvet
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 9814

                          Originally posted by Ford8N
                          ^^^^^ Not everyone is a devout Mormon, everyone has a little "history". EVERYONE. So lighten up on the background check and you will have more candidates.
                          That's not accurate, plenty of normal everyday people have a squeaky clean background. They are also the ones intelligent enough to know, they can make much better money doing something else with far less risk. And far less Monday morning QB'ing by the uninformed, that often include your city management.

                          My kids backgrounds are squeaky clean and I advice them against a career in LE after spending three decades in it myself.
                          Im a warmonger baby, I got blood in my eyes and I'm looking at you.

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                          • #14
                            legalbroker
                            Member
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 385

                            FWIW...if police depts. acted (not all) like they want to hire folks they would have much better luck.

                            When I went through background I felt like they did every thing to get me DQ'd. when I passed my polygraph the person conducting it asked me over and over again the same questions even though I passed there test.

                            One day, I just said "i don't need this" and walked away. Never regretted it.

                            I have great respect for cops...work with a lot of them, have a lot as friends too....

                            Seems like the last 15 - 20 years a lot of depts. don't want meat eaters any more...they want the guy/gal who is innocent or timid...
                            Just my .2cents
                            Last edited by legalbroker; 03-27-2017, 9:35 PM.
                            rmjrprotects

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                            • #15
                              CinnamonBear723
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 1874

                              Originally posted by legalbroker
                              FWIW...if police depts. acted (not all) like they want to hire folks they would have much better luck.

                              When I went through background I felt like they did every thing to get me DQ'd. when I passed my polygraph the person conducting it asked me over and over again the same questions even though I passed there test.

                              One day, I just said "i don't need this" and walked away. Never regretted it.

                              I have great respect for cops...work with a lot of them, have a lot as friends too....

                              Seems like the last 15 - 20 years a lot of depts. don't want meat eaters any more...they want the guy/gal who is innocent or timid...
                              Just my .2cents
                              The background process is department dependent. I was going thru several backgrounds at the same time and I can say they were all quite different. Every dept had their own culture. A part of conducting a background is finding out how serious someone is about being a copper as well as making sure they are not lying about ANYTHING. That's why there is a lot of repetitive questioning.

                              As far as the timid and shy thing, I can't speak for every dept, but it seems more and more depts are overly concerned with someone's education and how they look on paper. Unfortunately, this sometimes leads to hiring ppl straight out of college who have little to no work history, and little to know life experience. Again, in my experience, these ppl have a hard time interacting with ppl or being assertive enough to do the job.

                              Most ppl with higher education simply realize they can do something less stressful and make more money so they generally "resign" and move on with their life.

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