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  • Doheny
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Sep 2008
    • 13820

    Prop 64 (MJ Legalization)

    I'm curious how LEA's will handle MJ use for new hires (applicants) and guys currently on the job. Is management saying anything yet?

    Seems like a quandary.
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  • #2
    TrailerparkTrash
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 4249

    Yes, some brass already say that it will NOT be tolerated if one wishes to remain employed. Many departments forbid the use of tobacco products even off duty, despite it being a legal product for the common folk. Just as railroads and airlines forbid their train operators and pilots from using. Unlike alcohol, mj stays in one's system for a month.
    Last edited by TrailerparkTrash; 10-27-2016, 8:27 PM.
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    • #3
      5150ds
      Junior Member
      • May 2016
      • 59

      It is still illegal federally. As long as that is the case it will not be tolerated.

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      • #4
        CinnamonBear723
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 1874

        The new CA proposition clearly states that it will allow employers, both public and private, to enact policy forbidding the use the marijuana. I was tasked with researching it at our dept.

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        • #5
          CaptMike
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2006
          • 1272

          Still a federal crime and you will be disciplined up to and including discharge at my dept.
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          • #6
            moooooo
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 59

            I heard when Colorado and Washington legalized mj the k-9's had to be retrained to not signal mj in search situations. Is that true?

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            • #7
              ronlglock
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • May 2011
              • 2670

              Prop 64 (MJ Legalization)

              FBI Director Comey has stated that the best cyber defenders cannot be hired, because they would take a toke on the way into the interview. He is seriously thinking of relaxing the requirements for cyber pros.


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              • #8
                pacrat
                I need a LIFE!!
                • May 2014
                • 10285

                Originally posted by moooooo
                I heard when Colorado and Washington legalized mj the k-9's had to be retrained to not signal mj in search situations. Is that true?
                Not LE. but I seriously doubt the veracity of that rumor. MJ, even here is still not "legal" for all people, at all times, under all circumstances, and all quantities.

                If you are an underage teen, driving a car, toking a J, with 100 pounds of homegrown in your trunk. You better make damn sure all your tail lights are working properly.

                Last edited by pacrat; 11-19-2016, 9:19 PM.

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                • #9
                  Quiet
                  retired Goon
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 30242

                  Originally posted by moooooo
                  I heard when Colorado and Washington legalized mj the k-9's had to be retrained to not signal mj in search situations. Is that true?
                  Regarding WA (Seattle PD)...
                  I heard that their K9s have not been retrained and if they find a large amount of mj, they pass the info onto the Feds (DEA) for enforcement.
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                  • #10
                    Blade Gunner
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 4422

                    The bigger question is how are LEO's going to handle drugged driving. The is no standardized test (like alcohol). Millions are spent every year to discourage and apprehend drunk drivers, yet the passage of Prop 64 puts everyone at greater risk.
                    If you find yourself in a fair fight, you're doing it all wrong.

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                    • #11
                      Snagglepuss
                      Member
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 407

                      Alcohol is legal. Try going to work drunk.

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                      • #12
                        pacrat
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • May 2014
                        • 10285

                        Originally posted by Blade Gunner
                        The bigger question is how are LEO's going to handle drugged driving.
                        The is no standardized test (like alcohol). Millions are spent every year to discourage and apprehend drunk drivers, yet the passage of Prop 64 puts everyone at greater risk.
                        Officers still have the discretion to arrest for "drugged driving". Just as they had before passage of 64. Lack of a "standardized test" is not a hurdle, it remains a stepping stone.

                        BAC of less than .08% can still result in an arrest for driving "impaired" by alcohol. Lack of standardized B-Pot-C. Doesn't change that where driving under influence/impaired is concerned.

                        Diphenhydramine HCI, has always been perfectly legal to consume, OTC antihistamine [Benadryl]. But you can be arrested for driving while impaired by diphenhydramine HCI.

                        Personally I'm far more concerned about "prop 57" putting everyone at risk. Just as I was with 47 and 109.

                        JM2c

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                        • #13
                          deadcoyote
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 4002

                          My agency is mulling over implementing random testing. As it stands now, you do a pre-employment UA and have to test if you TC your work rig or get in an OIS.
                          Buying a safe and sane firework is like paying a hooker for a hug. I do not see the appeal in it.

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                          • #14
                            Frotz
                            Member
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 417

                            It's well known that alcohol in the blood impairs driving. That's not so with pot. One can come down from a pot high and be perfectly safe to drive, yet metabolites can still be detected in the blood. Will law enforcement focus on that and not the impairment?

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                            • #15
                              Lonestargrizzly not a Cabinetguy
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Dec 2015
                              • 6504

                              Originally posted by Frotz
                              It's well known that alcohol in the blood impairs driving. That's not so with pot. One can come down from a pot high and be perfectly safe to drive, yet metabolites can still be detected in the blood. Will law enforcement focus on that and not the impairment?
                              Lol.

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