Unconfigured Ad Widget

Collapse

Chicago PD proposes use of force limits

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • TrailerparkTrash
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 4249

    Chicago PD proposes use of force limits

    You can't make this stuff up.... The very last sentence at the bottom of the article and from the Mayor's office is what's so unbelievable.


    Chicago PD Proposes ‘Use-of-Force’ Limits Two Days After Cop Beaten, Hospitalized

    by AWR Hawkins 8 Oct 2016

    On Friday Chicago Police Department officials proposed limiting when officers can use lethal force against suspects, asking officers to focus instead on ways to “de-escalate” the situation.

    These proposals came two days after a female officer was beaten to the point of hospitalization, yet refused to use her gun against the suspect for fear of public backlash against her family and the Chicago PD. According to ABC 7, Chicago PD superintendent Eddie Johnson said,“ She thought she was going to die. She knew that she should shoot this guy, but she chose not to, because she didn’t want her family or the department to have to go through the scrutiny the next day on national news.”

    Now the Chicago PD is pushing to make the use of guns even less frequent. The New York Times quoted Johnson saying, “The business of being able to de-escalate situations, I think, is paramount to what we’re going to do.”

    Dean Angelo Sr. is president of the union that represents Chicago officers and he does not like the proposals. He fears they will hinder officers’ use of lethal force in time of need and lead to more instances of officer injury and death. The overwhelming trepidation that prevented the female officer from using lethal force Wednesday is a good example.

    Angelo stressed that officers are not getting the gratitude they should be getting for the work they already do to save lives, and he appeared to indicate that he hopes officers continue to take whatever actions necessary to save their own lives when push comes to shove. He said:

    At the end of the day, when an officer is confronted in that alley or an officer is confronted in a life-or-death situation, they are going to do what they is necessary to go home. If they getting written up for it, so be it. My concern is that these guys and girls go home to their families.

    A report from a task force assembled by Mayor Rahm Emanuel (D) is a driving force behind the proposed limits on use-of-force. The task force concluded their report by writing, “C.P.D.’s own data gives validity to the widely held belief the police have not regard for the sanctity of life when it come to people of color.” It follows that part of the new proposal is a requirement that officers “consider a suspect’s race” before drawing their guns.

    AWR Hawkins is the Second Amendment columnist for Breitbart News and political analyst for Armed American Radio. Follow him on Twitter: @AWRHawkins. Reach him directly at awrhawkins@breitbart.com.


    On Friday Chicago Police Department officials proposed limiting when officers can use lethal force against suspects, asking officers to focus instead on ways to "de-escalate" the situation. | Politics
    Last edited by TrailerparkTrash; 10-10-2016, 10:36 AM.
    sigpic

    It`s funny to me to see how angry an atheist is over a God they don`t believe in.` -Jack Hibbs

    -ΙΧΘΥΣ <><
  • #2
    POLICESTATE
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Apr 2009
    • 18185

    The smart cops in Chicago PD are all looking for new jobs outside of Chicago right now.

    The message here is loud and clear: "You only have the support of the city so long as it is politically expedient, so try not to screw up, in fact you're probably better off getting killed in the line of duty rather than risk defending yourself (and others) from dangerous suspects."
    -POLICESTATE,
    In the name of the State, and of the School, and of the Infallible Science


    sigpic


    Government Official Lies
    . F r e e d o m . D i e s .

    Comment

    • #3
      Rockit
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2007
      • 1337

      I was at a LE convention recently....several presenters were pushing that BS agenda. It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

      Comment

      • #4
        Bobby Ricigliano
        Mit Gott und Mauser
        CGN Contributor
        • Feb 2011
        • 17439

        It is amazing that segments of society who commit brazen violent crimes, have no respect for the law, do not work or go to school, scare away lawful commerce, live on government handouts and theft, pay no taxes, and take zero responsibility for their actions, have so much leverage to shape policies and influence politicians.

        Comment

        • #5
          solipsism
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 1332

          These are dark times we live in.

          Comment

          • #6
            Sniper3142
            Veteran Member
            • May 2004
            • 2579

            Sounds like a pendulum is swinging too much in the other direction. But something needs to CHANGE. Cops should not be able to shoot an unarmed person who is not attacking an officer or someone else. Unless an actual threat (WEAPON) is seen or a physical attack is happening, there should be no use of deadly force.

            Incidents where cops shoot unarmed people (usually people of color) need to be addressed and stopped. Often there is no weapon found on the person shot. Being afraid that someone MIGHT somehow produce a weapon because they are not following orders should not be a Green Light to shoot them.

            An ex-South Carolina state trooper pleaded guilty Monday to assault and battery after shooting an unarmed man at a gas station in 2014.






            An unarmed man who was shot and killed by an Arizona police officer in January cried, complied with police orders and begged for his life before the fatal firing, according to a newly released police report. Mesa Police Officer Philip…


            Of course I'm betting that I'll be reading what amounts to "people need to Comply or Die" responses.
            Internet Talk is Cheap

            Man Up, Show Up, or Shut the @#$! Up.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C74HgbjSCLM

            Comment

            • #7
              pacrat
              I need a LIFE!!
              • May 2014
              • 10282

              Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
              It is amazing that segments of society who commit brazen violent crimes, have no respect for the law, do not work or go to school, scare away lawful commerce, live on government handouts and theft, pay no taxes, and take zero responsibility for their actions, have so much leverage to shape policies and influence politicians.
              Very astute observation as to what the non-productive segments of our liberal society don't do.

              The one thing they do. Is vote as a block. And they always vote for "Gimme Free Ch!t". Which means DemTurd, the Nanny State Party.
              Attached Files

              Comment

              • #8
                Bobby Ricigliano
                Mit Gott und Mauser
                CGN Contributor
                • Feb 2011
                • 17439

                Originally posted by pacrat
                Very astute observation as to what the non-productive segments of our liberal society don't do.

                The one thing they do. Is vote as a block. And they always vote for "Gimme Free Ch!t". Which means DemTurd, the Nanny State Party.
                True. But even if they stay home, there will be plenty of voter fraud to compensate for their absence at the polls.

                Comment

                • #9
                  Sutterduckhunter
                  Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 202

                  Originally posted by Sniper3142
                  Sounds like a pendulum is swinging too much in the other direction. But something needs to CHANGE. Cops should not be able to shoot an unarmed person who is not attacking an officer or someone else. Unless an actual threat (WEAPON) is seen or a physical attack is happening, there should be no use of deadly force.

                  Incidents where cops shoot unarmed people (usually people of color) need to be addressed and stopped. Often there is no weapon found on the person shot. Being afraid that someone MIGHT somehow produce a weapon because they are not following orders should not be a Green Light to shoot them.

                  An ex-South Carolina state trooper pleaded guilty Monday to assault and battery after shooting an unarmed man at a gas station in 2014.






                  An unarmed man who was shot and killed by an Arizona police officer in January cried, complied with police orders and begged for his life before the fatal firing, according to a newly released police report. Mesa Police Officer Philip…


                  Of course I'm betting that I'll be reading what amounts to "people need to Comply or Die" responses.
                  These incidents are so rare compared to all the contacts/arrests made on a daily basis. 99.9% have all been justified homicides. Almost all of the incidents in the media ended up being justified.

                  I understand that their will be some "bad shoots", because humans are involved.

                  In the end, if I feel a threat to my life or someone else's, I wouldn't hesitate to kill a unarmed/armed person.

                  Comment

                  • #10
                    Dutch3
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 14181

                    Originally posted by Sniper3142
                    Sounds like a pendulum is swinging too much in the other direction. But something needs to CHANGE. Cops should not be able to shoot an unarmed person who is not attacking an officer or someone else. Unless an actual threat (WEAPON) is seen or a physical attack is happening, there should be no use of deadly force.

                    Incidents where cops shoot unarmed people (usually people of color) need to be addressed and stopped. Often there is no weapon found on the person shot. Being afraid that someone MIGHT somehow produce a weapon because they are not following orders should not be a Green Light to shoot them.

                    An ex-South Carolina state trooper pleaded guilty Monday to assault and battery after shooting an unarmed man at a gas station in 2014.






                    An unarmed man who was shot and killed by an Arizona police officer in January cried, complied with police orders and begged for his life before the fatal firing, according to a newly released police report. Mesa Police Officer Philip…


                    Of course I'm betting that I'll be reading what amounts to "people need to Comply or Die" responses.
                    Why wouldn't one comply? The majority of the incidents I have seen when deadly force was used have been the result of somebody failing to follow instructions. The man has a badge and a gun. If he says, "Put your hands on your head", or "Get on the ground", these aren't very difficult instructions to comply with. You know he has the means to force compliance, why resist?

                    I have been in that situation, with a Ventura County Sheriff Deputy's pistol pointed at my forehead at a distance of about 12 inches. He said, "Get on the floor!" and my response was, "No problem." And I got on the floor.

                    We exchanged pleasantries after the fact and he apologized for 'making me look down the wrong end of that thing'. In that situation, I was an unarmed good guy, but he had no way of knowing that when being placed into the situation. I could have been an armed bad guy, and he needed to determine what was going on.

                    If 'people of color' want to end these unfortunate interactions, perhaps they should start by following instructions.
                    Just taking up space in (what is no longer) the second-worst small town in California.

                    Comment

                    • #11
                      TrailerparkTrash
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 4249

                      Originally posted by Sniper3142
                      Sounds like a pendulum is swinging too much in the other direction. But something needs to CHANGE. Cops should not be able to shoot an unarmed person who is not attacking an officer or someone else. Unless an actual threat (WEAPON) is seen or a physical attack is happening, there should be no use of deadly force.

                      Incidents where cops shoot unarmed people (usually people of color) need to be addressed and stopped. Often there is no weapon found on the person shot. Being afraid that someone MIGHT somehow produce a weapon because they are not following orders should not be a Green Light to shoot them.
                      Chhhhh, easier said than done.

                      ...and your vast experience of pointing your gun at a bad-guy on a dark street while wearing the badge is with who again???
                      sigpic

                      It`s funny to me to see how angry an atheist is over a God they don`t believe in.` -Jack Hibbs

                      -ΙΧΘΥΣ <><

                      Comment

                      • #12
                        pacrat
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • May 2014
                        • 10282

                        Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
                        True. But even if they stay home, there will be plenty of voter fraud to compensate for their absence at the polls.
                        You mean like dead Democraps and illegal alien "motor voters"?

                        What is needed is more "poll monitors" to assure that only the right people are allowed to vote.

                        As soon as O-hole entered the White House and Holder became USAG. All charges against the Black Panther Poll Monitors vanished. Amazing how that works.
                        Attached Files

                        Comment

                        • #13
                          micro911
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 2346

                          Tell that to the officers who died last week.

                          Comment

                          • #14
                            SonofWWIIDI
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 21583

                            Great, i might move to chiraq and sign up.

                            Writing tickets, busting little old ladies with capguns, sitting in my cruiser napping, eating donuts and making bank.


                            Then when the liberal douchebags realize the isht storm they created, retire and take my pension.









                            No, I'm not bashing LEOs.

                            They do a job that most won't...or can't. And they get my respect everyday!
                            Last edited by SonofWWIIDI; 10-11-2016, 11:03 AM.
                            Sorry, not sorry.
                            🎺

                            Dear autocorrect, I'm really getting tired of your shirt!

                            Comment

                            • #15
                              SWalt
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 8673

                              Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
                              It is amazing that segments of society who commit brazen violent crimes, have no respect for the law, do not work or go to school, scare away lawful commerce, live on government handouts and theft, pay no taxes, and take zero responsibility for their actions, have so much leverage to shape policies and influence politicians.
                              There are bigger trends at work. Look at Obama releasing all those felons commuting sentences. Look at CA and its answer to "over crowded prisons". After getting crime rates down by increasing sentences, throwing "low level criminals" in prison and 3 strikes laws there seems to be the leftists notion of "there aren't any bad people" only those 'misunderstood' economically deprived people" being pushed. They are decriminalizing crime and a big push to make people think people are arrested only because society did them wrong. It isn't going to get better until people start complaining again how crime is way out of control, that will take yrs if not decades for that to happen. In the mean time we will hear about "programs designed to turn their lives around" when we all know you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink.
                              ^^^The above is just an opinion.

                              NRA Patron Member
                              CRPA 5 yr Member

                              "...which from their verbosity, their endless tautologies, their involutions of case within case, and parenthesis within parenthesis, and their multiplied efforts at certainty by saids and aforesaids, by ors and by ands, to make them more plain, do really render them more perplexed and incomprehensible, not only to common readers, but to lawyers themselves. " - Thomas Jefferson

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              UA-8071174-1