REMEMBER WHEN ----->

[SVT-40]

I was also wondering why none of you Old Timers failed to mention

1. Mustaches
2. Aviator Sunglasses

Not just mustaches, but the needed "salty" Fu man chu style staches... Also long hair... Just to buck regulations....

[I Swan]

Those guys look like 1970's porno stars or something. I notice that Huntington Beach and Long Beach PD still have those long sticks how common is that these days?

[WyattandDoc]

Thomas Guides

No whining

No eating while on field training

Sneaking food behind your TO's back

Sneaking some chewing tobacco behind your TO's back

Getting your booking packet thrown at you

Forgetting your gun in the booking cage when a hot call went out (TO never found out. 10-29V Frank David 4 deep..Grabbed the boomer with the suspect's property bag I was booking still in my gun belt)

When you would do the job for free

When there was Firestone, Lennox and Lynwood stations.

Good Times!!!!

[CH483]

I still use a posse box, and still hand write citations.

[micro911]

I still use a posse box, and still hand write citations.

When I retired, I gave my Posse box to a young one who is in training. I used it for almost 27 years. Hope he uses for another 30 years..

[Wideflange]

First Duty weapon Ruger Redhawk .357

Custom Hoyt holster, cost a weeks pay.

Dump pouches and Super Vels on strips.

Spending several months working swings in drunk tank and never once wearing my uniform blouse.

Coming home with nothing bleeding or torn and being interrogated by wife for cheating on her and not working

Waiting all year for the Christmas party at the Captains house (nurses, cops and any hot probation clerks).

Angel Dust

Watching Buck Savage Betamax "training" videos

[CH483]

When I retired, I gave my Posse box to a young one who is in training. I used it for almost 27 years. Hope he uses for another 30 years..

That's awesome! My posse box is a hand-me-down as well. Still has the previous owners name/badge # in some kind of acrylic paint on the top.

My leather dual cite book is also a pass down. From what I was told it's from an old east coast dept. guy.

All the stuff those things have been through before me, during my time, and when I give em up when I'm done.

[LtJim]

First Duty weapon Ruger Redhawk .357

Custom Hoyt holster, cost a weeks pay.

Dump pouches and Super Vels on strips.

Spending several months working swings in drunk tank and never once wearing my uniform blouse.

Coming home with nothing bleeding or torn and being interrogated by wife for cheating on her and not working

Waiting all year for the Christmas party at the Captains house (nurses, cops and any hot probation clerks).

Angel Dust

Watching Buck Savage Betamax "training" videos

For the newer generation who do not even have a clue who "J.D Buck Savage" is---Here is a little Throwback Thursday stuff of what we saw in the '80s for Training Films---Please note the Glasses, Sideburns and the Famous Mustache!!!

http://jdbucksavage.com/video-gallery/

[Che762x39]

Well my first bought holster, cross draw. My partner who was an old timer who talked me into it.

[Che762x39]

Not just mustaches, but the needed "salty" Fu man chu style staches... Also long hair... Just to buck regulations....

I always had supervisors who told me to trim my mustache and I always got away with, "sir/ma'am, I representing the department at Western Days". No one ever figured out that Western Days were all you long.

[Che762x39]

Actually using a Police "Call Box" to contact the station.

I still have the key

[IrishJoe3]

I respectfully doff my hat for those that maintained Law and Order during the Stone Age..... gentlemen, I am not worthy of this thread

[Wideflange]

For the newer generation who do not even have a clue who "J.D Buck Savage" is---Here is a little Throwback Thursday stuff of what we saw in the '80s for Training Films---Please note the Glasses, Sideburns and the Famous Mustache!!!

http://jdbucksavage.com/video-gallery/

Thanks for that!

[deadcoyote]

OK old timers -- Time to Shake Up this Forum just a bit and have some fun. Feel free to add in a couple of the "Remember Whens" from your time on the job. I'm sure its a tad bit different than today.

I'll start with a few and see where this thread goes.


1. Revolvers - Issued a model 19 4"

2. Break Front or Clam Shell Holsters - check

3. Posse Boxes - had to buy my own, check

4. Actually Hand Writing a Citation or Report - yes on cites, on reports we recorded them on a dictaphone and a secretary wrote em out.

5. 24" 2nd Growth Hickory w/Rubber Grommet Straight Stick - didn't like the straight stick, had a PR-24, but still have my dad's 70's vintage stick.

6. Using your Sap Pocket to Carry your SAP! - weren't allowed but all the old timers complained about having em taken away.

7. When 11357 H&S for a "Roach" or "Seeds" was a Felony - we were green dope friendly even 20 years ago, but over a couple ounces would catch you a felony. Now DA's guidelines say don't move on it unless they break 3 pounds.

8. "Thomas Bros." was just as important as GPS is today - don't know the reference. USFS maps were our holy grail prior to GPS.

9. How far out of your Beat you went on duty W/O authorization (Poloroid Required) "10-6 personal" meant someones wife or GF was getting the business during lunch break, and often out of beat.

OK Gang---Take it away ---->

I am not that old, just work in a hillbilly area.

[TrailerparkTrash]

9. How far out of your Beat you went on duty W/O authorization (Poloroid Required)

I "heard" of a good story once.....but not until after I retire.


Now some of these memories are from my dad and grandfather who were also LEO. Growing up, I remember some of the stories vividly....

-When real bad guys actually feared the police.

-When good guys respected the police. (Amazing how everyone seemed to get along better then too!)

-When a certain large department kicked a lot of @ss and it was the norm (even before my time).

-When there was no such thing as a "force memo."

-When there was no such thing as a "Force Package" with an I.A. number!

-When it was "CS gas" before OC spray.

-Ike jackets

-K9's could deploy on anybody that ran.

-Beavertail saps before the Gonzales 415.

-Gonzales 245 & 187.

-Kel lights before StreamLights

-Sears Chrome plated, ribbed "D-cell" flashlights before Kel Lights.

-When there was no such thing as a "D.A. OIS response team."

-San Clemente, Stanton, Lynwood actually had their own PD's.

-Firestone had Carson

-Lennox had Lomita and a Beach RD!!!!

-When certain sheriff's departments around the state actually drove their department's patrol cars that said "Sheriff" on the side and not "Police."

-When certain sheriff's departments around the state actually mandated that all sworn personnel don the same uniform that said "sheriff" on their badge as well as shoulder patches and not "police" on the patches.

-Cops never needed a firearm 15-day or 10-day (current) wait exemption letter from their dept.

-Most (not all) California police departments had an "eagle" style badge unlike the LAPD's oval "shield" type.

-No side panels on the first vests made by "Second Chance" (bought out by Safariland).

-Pursuits never got cancelled. They ran, you chased, period.

-When ALL cops knew what the "Onion Field" and "Newhall" incidents were. (Ask any new cop now and they just give you a blank stare).

-When all cops knew who Joseph Wambaugh was.

-The "Shortstop" bar

-Isla Vista

-When most academies in the state trained using the "Will to survive" series of videos by LASD.

-LAPD was "LAPD" and LASD was "LASO." (Changed I believe with Sheriff Biscailuz).

-When Industry (or Walnut???) station (LASD) only had one way in or out through Brea (Orange County), for a tiny sliver of unincorporated LA county and to patrol that one little residential street. It was finally annexed into the OC. ...about 20 years ago.

-Irvine PD used to wear dress-wear sports coats.

-The Irvine PD officer that was kidnapped while on duty and taken hostage in his own police car. (Saved by a back up gun).

-When Brea PD got their first radio dispatch system, all phone calls to "dispatch" were contracted and handled by...the Los Angeles Police Department! (Yup, it's true).

-Brea PD didn't have a SWAT team in the early 70's, but they did have Thompson sub-machine guns for sergeant vehicles. (I personally held one).

-J.D. "Buck" Savage training videos!!!!

...and for now, last but not least and before any one of our times.... When Los Angeles county sheriff used to patrol (on horseback) the areas of what's now Kern, San Bernardino, riverside and orange counties combined!