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  • Taco Shop
    Banned
    • Jul 2015
    • 103

    LEOs- Gear suggestion during fire storms.

    LEOs- This might work better for you in the field if you dont want to breath in smoke. I just saw this old photo below and it reminded me of a question from the fire industry- Why slap a flammable cotton wick to your face during a fire?



    Just a suggestion, there is a product thats way better than the construction mask- the HotShield. It works great as Ive used it in the field several times.



    Here is their website and NO, I do not work for them or sell them-

    Last edited by Taco Shop; 06-28-2016, 12:05 AM.
  • #2
    Taco Shop
    Banned
    • Jul 2015
    • 103

    Originally posted by Irishfisher
    They are police officers, not firefighters. They wear the masks to reduce particulate inhalation when in the area of the smoke and fallout.
    Thank you Captain Obvious. Please re-read the original posting a couple more times with the helpful photos and I think it will eventually click for you.

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    • #3
      CBR_rider
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 2706

      So they work pretty good? I'll pick up some, thanks. I am gonna guess that the extra water we had is probably only going to create more fuel for this fire season in some places. I'd like to be prepared for this years likely set of mutual aid call outs.

      Any other cheap gear you recommend?
      Originally posted by bwiese
      [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
      Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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      • #4
        Taco Shop
        Banned
        • Jul 2015
        • 103

        Originally posted by CBR_rider
        So they work pretty good? I'll pick up some, thanks. I am gonna guess that the extra water we had is probably only going to create more fuel for this fire season in some places. I'd like to be prepared for this years likely set of mutual aid call outs.

        Any other cheap gear you recommend?
        Yes, they work really well. I would not call them "cheap" as they are high quality material and constructed tough. They are a good product for filtering out smoke.
        Last edited by Taco Shop; 06-28-2016, 9:22 AM.

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        • #5
          Taco Shop
          Banned
          • Jul 2015
          • 103

          LEOs- Gear suggestion during fire storms.

          Originally posted by Irishfisher
          No need to stoop to name-calling. Read it just fine the first time. They shouldn't be close enough for the so-called "wicks" to ignite. If they are, they have other issues, like cotton/polyester uniforms. Nice product for fire personnel, but overkill for law enforcement.
          No name calling, but your response was condescending. I personally do not recommend putting a flammable wick to your face where flying embers and debris can catch on to your face. If police officers are in the general area of a brush fire, they could get hot or flying debris to their faces, thats why the LEOs in the photo I posted are wearing goggles.

          For around $60, isnt your personal safety and breathing worth it? It was just a suggestion and I wasnt asking for (sarcastic) input here. And NO, I do not work for them or sell them.
          Last edited by Taco Shop; 06-28-2016, 1:27 PM.

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          • #6
            pkorodini
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 33

            Ask your local FD if they could spare any "hot shields". Also if there's an ICP established on a fire incident with a supply unit, you could get a hot shield issued to you at no cost.

            Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk

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            • #7
              oddjob
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2003
              • 2397

              The last time I worked a big fire as a LEO (for looters) we were told "be careful" and good luck. No fire safety equipment at all. Not even those masks.

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              • #8
                esy
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2012
                • 1191

                Look like some good ideas to have as a "just in case" in my bag. I have a gas mask as well, however, this is still cool to have as an extra or maybe something I can throw in my BOB or even my battle belt with med kit and stuff.

                Thanks!

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                • #9
                  CBR_rider
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 2706

                  I don't really plan on being in the middle of a firestorm, and if my position is overrun by a wildfire the chances are I'm not going to make it anyway without any other kind of protective gear. That being said; what are your thoughts on the bandana versus the Hotshield? I am looking for something (based on last year's fires) to: Keep me from breathing in so much smoke, not potentially catch fire from embers, and perhaps for a little bit more protection from burns around exposed parts of my body (provided my uniform doesn't just melt to my skin or something exciting like that).
                  Originally posted by bwiese
                  [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
                  Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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                  • #10
                    SMarquez
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 2216

                    All I used for 32 years was a bandana. Look closely at most fire guys and you will see a bandana. The fire shield might be good for LEOs but when you are out there swinging idiot sticks and throwing dirt at flames it would just be too hot for me.
                    If you are going to use the hotshield with any embers tuck it in your shirt and button your shirt to the collar to keep embers out.
                    FWIW I have seen lots of LEOs deep in it doing the EVACs. Here's a pro tip. If you see FD bugging out, get yourself out ASAP.

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                    • #11
                      Taco Shop
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2015
                      • 103

                      Originally posted by CBR_rider
                      I don't really plan on being in the middle of a firestorm, and if my position is overrun by a wildfire the chances are I'm not going to make it anyway without any other kind of protective gear. That being said; what are your thoughts on the bandana versus the Hotshield? I am looking for something (based on last year's fires) to: Keep me from breathing in so much smoke, not potentially catch fire from embers, and perhaps for a little bit more protection from burns around exposed parts of my body (provided my uniform doesn't just melt to my skin or something exciting like that).
                      A bandana is just a flammable cotton cloth on your face. Reading your posting, the Hotshield would be prefect for you. I have worn it and it really does work well and will protect the lower half of your face. Looks like it would fit your needs perfect.

                      For me, $50 or $60 is not a big expense for protective gear that will last me along time.

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                      • #12
                        Taco Shop
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2015
                        • 103

                        Originally posted by SMarquez
                        All I used for 32 years was a bandana. Look closely at most fire guys and you will see a bandana. The fire shield might be good for LEOs but when you are out there swinging idiot sticks and throwing dirt at flames it would just be too hot for me.
                        If you are going to use the hotshield with any embers tuck it in your shirt and button your shirt to the collar to keep embers out.
                        FWIW I have seen lots of LEOs deep in it doing the EVACs. Here's a pro tip. If you see FD bugging out, get yourself out ASAP.
                        Dude- The bandanas are old technology, time to wake up to the new. No one is using those anymore.

                        As for swinging sticks and throwing dirt, they work and do not restrict breathing.

                        It was only a suggestion for a product that works great. No need to get defensive here and get all anti.

                        Thanks

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                        • #13
                          Taco Shop
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2015
                          • 103

                          Just a closing point, my post was a suggestion only, I was NOT asking for feedback or opinions. Please keep the negative comments to yourself as I'm not asking for them.

                          Thank you

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                          • #14
                            SMarquez
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 2216

                            Originally posted by Taco Shop
                            Dude- The bandanas are old technology, time to wake up to the new. No one is using those anymore.

                            As for swinging sticks and throwing dirt, they work and do not restrict breathing.

                            It was only a suggestion for a product that works great. No need to get defensive here and get all anti.

                            Thanks
                            Not defensive, just telling you what all I used. Up until 3 years ago anyway. Not anti, just didn't use it.
                            Again, whatever you use, tighten up the collar to prevent embers from dropping down your back.
                            Last edited by SMarquez; 07-05-2016, 10:28 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Taco Shop
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2015
                              • 103

                              Originally posted by SMarquez
                              Not defensive, just telling you what all I used. Up until 3 years ago anyway. Not anti, just didn't use it.
                              Again, whatever you use, tighten up the collar to prevent embers from dropping down your back.
                              Sorry, I dont really need your input or advice on the issue.

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