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  • 09cs
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 1704

    Ticket not in system?

    My dad got a ticket a couple of months ago for talking on the phone while driving. He gave it the 30 or so days it says to before checking online, and it said "ticket not found" or something like that.

    Yesterday was his court date that was on the ticket, and they couldn't find it in the system either!

    Once he got a supervisor who could help, they had him pay the fine but said keep your receipt incase there is a warrant out for this

    Why would there be a warrant out if he paid the ticket, and IF there is a warrant, how will that affect him in terms of his record, purchasing firearms, etc.?

    Thank you!
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  • #2
    ke6guj
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    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Nov 2003
    • 23725

    I once had a ticket not show up in the system. went to court to pay it and they couldn't find it. they gave me a note or soemthing showing that I had showed up to pay it.

    3 years later I get my DL renewal in the mail but it shows that I have an FTA, WTF? dig deeper and they had filed my ticket in the juvenile court system instead of adult court (they read my DOB wrong off the ticket) and I was an FTA there. Immediately drove down to juvi and saw the judge who dismissed the ticket and cleared the FTA.
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    • #3
      09cs
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2013
      • 1704

      Originally posted by ke6guj
      I once had a ticket not show up in the system. went to court to pay it and they couldn't find it. they gave me a note or soemthing showing that I had showed up to pay it.

      3 years later I get my DL renewal in the mail but it shows that I have an FTA, WTF? dig deeper and they had filed my ticket in the juvenile court system instead of adult court (they read my DOB wrong off the ticket) and I was an FTA there. Immediately drove down to juvi and saw the judge who dismissed the ticket and cleared the FTA.
      Thanks, would a moving violation ticket even end up in something like Juvi court system?
      Last edited by 09cs; 03-31-2016, 10:14 PM.
      LA CCW:
      Mailed app: 6/23/2021
      Received Call: 4/5/22
      Interview: 4/12/22
      More documentation for GC requested and sent: 6/23/22
      Livescan completed and cleared: 8/3/22 Firearm Livescan Completed: 8/7/22
      Proceed to training email: 9/13/22
      Training doc received: 9/28/22
      Call to pick up: 10/31/22
      Pick up permit: 11/4/22

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      • #4
        russelltactical
        Junior Member
        CGN Contributor
        • Mar 2014
        • 42

        Have him also contact the agency who issued the ticket and inquire about it on their end. It's possible the ticket did not get submitted to the court.
        "For God and Country."

        FFL in Orange, CA.

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        • #5
          flyer898
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 2018

          There is a lot about this that does not make sense. The issuing agency must file the citations with the court before any criminal process can start. Sometimes they do not do this timely, and sometimes they decide not to file citations. Unless OP entered a plea (guilty, not-guilty, or nolo) there was no reason to collect his bail. What OP needed was documentation he appeared as promised and there was nothing on file (who made the mistake? the cops, the court?). Then if the agency decides to file, he will be notified. Make sure your correct address is on file with the court and document that you did so.
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          • #6
            09cs
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 1704

            Originally posted by flyer898
            There is a lot about this that does not make sense. The issuing agency must file the citations with the court before any criminal process can start. Sometimes they do not do this timely, and sometimes they decide not to file citations. Unless OP entered a plea (guilty, not-guilty, or nolo) there was no reason to collect his bail. What OP needed was documentation he appeared as promised and there was nothing on file (who made the mistake? the cops, the court?). Then if the agency decides to file, he will be notified. Make sure your correct address is on file with the court and document that you did so.
            The supervisor he spoke to gave him a receipt saying he showed up and paid the fine
            LA CCW:
            Mailed app: 6/23/2021
            Received Call: 4/5/22
            Interview: 4/12/22
            More documentation for GC requested and sent: 6/23/22
            Livescan completed and cleared: 8/3/22 Firearm Livescan Completed: 8/7/22
            Proceed to training email: 9/13/22
            Training doc received: 9/28/22
            Call to pick up: 10/31/22
            Pick up permit: 11/4/22

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            • #7
              artb
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              • Feb 2014
              • 1552

              I would be inclined to pursue all possibilities.
              There is no such thing as a free lunch -- or a lost ticket.

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              • #8
                razorscs
                Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 417

                There are a couple real possibilities here. If the officer wrote the ticket on a paper ticket and lost his copy of the ticket or forgot to turn it in (or something like that) then the court would never have any clue you got one. If he issued it using an electronic ticket writer, when he went to upload them to the computer it may have never transferred over (this just happened to me last weekend). And then there is always the possibility the court made an error somewhere.

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                • #9
                  09cs
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 1704

                  Originally posted by razorscs
                  There are a couple real possibilities here. If the officer wrote the ticket on a paper ticket and lost his copy of the ticket or forgot to turn it in (or something like that) then the court would never have any clue you got one. If he issued it using an electronic ticket writer, when he went to upload them to the computer it may have never transferred over (this just happened to me last weekend). And then there is always the possibility the court made an error somewhere.
                  It was a paper ticket. I told him to call the CHP monday (tomorrow) to see if they know anything.
                  LA CCW:
                  Mailed app: 6/23/2021
                  Received Call: 4/5/22
                  Interview: 4/12/22
                  More documentation for GC requested and sent: 6/23/22
                  Livescan completed and cleared: 8/3/22 Firearm Livescan Completed: 8/7/22
                  Proceed to training email: 9/13/22
                  Training doc received: 9/28/22
                  Call to pick up: 10/31/22
                  Pick up permit: 11/4/22

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