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  • pacrat
    I need a LIFE!!
    • May 2014
    • 10284

    Question re a charge

    "Resisting an executive officer". In non LE laymans terms. Is that the same as resisting arrest?

    Read it in this mornings paper.

    Thank you.
  • #2
    omgwtfbbq
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 3445

    Section 69(a) PC:

    69. (a) Every person who attempts, by means of any threat or
    violence, to deter or prevent an executive officer from performing
    any duty imposed upon the officer by law, or who knowingly resists,
    by the use of force or violence, the officer, in the performance of
    his or her duty,
    is punishable by a fine not exceeding ten thousand
    dollars ($10,000), or by imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of
    Section 1170, or in a county jail not exceeding one year, or by both
    such fine and imprisonment.
    Executive officer essentially means an LEO (although I think there are some first responders that also fall into this too). The crux of this section is in bold. 148(a)(1) PC is more passive levels of resistance and is a misdemeanor. 69 PC typically involves violence an injury to an officer and is a felony.
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    • #3
      pacrat
      I need a LIFE!!
      • May 2014
      • 10284

      knowingly resists,by the use of force or violence, the officer, in the performance of his or her duty,
      The incident I read in the paper definitely included, "resisting using force or violence".

      It was in reference to a traffic stop that went sideways when a passenger jumped out with a pistol and pointed it at officers. Resulting in an OIS. So PC 69(a) was in play.
      I had just never heard it referred to as "resisting an executive officer".

      Thank you Sir.

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      • #4
        RickD427
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jan 2007
        • 9266

        Originally posted by omgwtfbbq
        Section 69(a) PC:



        Executive officer essentially means an LEO (although I think there are some first responders that also fall into this too). The crux of this section is in bold. 148(a)(1) PC is more passive levels of resistance and is a misdemeanor. 69 PC typically involves violence an injury to an officer and is a felony.
        ^^^^A pretty good answer here^^^^^

        69 PC is a felony. It requires that the person attempt to prevent, or actually prevent the officer from performing some duty through the threat of violence, or the actual use of violence.

        Because of the "attempted" language, a person can violate section 69 without actually using any violence.

        148 PC can be a felony or a misdemeanor depending on the circumstances. The most commonly used provisions of 148 PC are those that prohibit the resistance, obstructing or delaying, an officer in the performance of their duty. Violation of that provision is a simple misdemeanor.
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        • #5
          Petro6golf
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 1309

          148 can be anything from running away to getting dumped on the ground. 69pc is threats to an leo to a violent physical encounter. if you get a 69pc charge the DA is gonna destroy you. I had a drunk bum threaten my family and myself and he got 9 months. Your basically done with a 69 pc charge.

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          • #6
            CBR_rider
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 2706

            Originally posted by Petro6golf
            148 can be anything from running away to getting dumped on the ground. 69pc is threats to an leo to a violent physical encounter. if you get a 69pc charge the DA is gonna destroy you. I had a drunk bum threaten my family and myself and he got 9 months. Your basically done with a 69 pc charge.
            If only... last guy I charged with PC69 got time served (three weeks IIRC) + probation. AAAND he was already facing two unrelated felony charges (had warrants and that is why he ran/fought with me). I was okay with it, though, he was high on meth and once he came off his high he actually apologized for his behavior/fight in which we both wound up getting treated at the hospital. I can respect a guy who at least knows when he screws up, doesn't cry about his injuries obtained during a fight he started, and apologizes like a man when it is all said and done.
            Originally posted by bwiese
            [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
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            • #7
              Petro6golf
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 1309

              Originally posted by CBR_rider
              If only... last guy I charged with PC69 got time served (three weeks IIRC) + probation. AAAND he was already facing two unrelated felony charges (had warrants and that is why he ran/fought with me). I was okay with it, though, he was high on meth and once he came off his high he actually apologized for his behavior/fight in which we both wound up getting treated at the hospital. I can respect a guy who at least knows when he screws up, doesn't cry about his injuries obtained during a fight he started, and apologizes like a man when it is all said and done.
              I agree. I think it depends on the DA. Our DA knows if they botch a 69pc and let it go they will have issues with local leo.

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