Curious

[BHLiu11]

Since I am not a LEO or have CCW in CA, this is not as important (until Peruta vs San Diego is decided) but wants to hear the opinions of the current LEOs on this forum about this.

http://www.policeone.com/police-products/firearms/articles/2144601-Dealing-with-citizens-legally-carrying-a-concealed-weapon/

Departmental SOP in place? Personal View (if possible), and departmental training about citizens with CCW, etc...

PS: I was in USMC from 92-98, went to Reserve Police Academy in 2000 (Lvl II), took some Criminal Justice classes to further my understanding, and have deepest appreciation for LEOs (many of my friends are current LEOS.)

[CBR_rider]

I've read that article before; decent overview but I always get a bit leery when someone tries to tell me how an armed "good guy" I gonna look vs an armed "bad guy." I've seen videos of, read stories about, andbeen around a few people who looked like "good guys" but who wound up hurting or killing cops.

My thoughts on CCW? I think we should have a shall issue system where the permit would allow the holder to carry all legal handguns owned by them. Since we live in reality and not ideals land, I would be okay with the permit having an option for revolver and semi-auto: a simple proficiency test at the beginning would allow someone to get one or both stamped on their ccw standardized id card. No rice paper or other non sense.

[R Dale]

The way I see it the people that the cops have to worry about will be armed independent of any CCW laws that may or may not be in place. Any cop that thinks the ability of a citizen to carry
a firearm legally makes their job more dangerous is dreaming IMO.

[R Dale]

My thoughts on CCW? I think we should have a shall issue system where the permit would allow the holder to carry all legal handguns owned by them. Since we live in reality and not ideals land, I would be okay with the permit having an option for revolver and semi-auto: a simple proficiency test at the beginning would allow someone to get one or both stamped on their ccw standardized id card. No rice paper or other non sense.

I agree 100%. There is no reason to only be able to carry what is listed on your permit in fact most of the gun laws are so far south of common sense I had no idea such laws were even in
place until I started to research them.

[BHLiu11]

This is a response from a buddy who is a LEO in Southern CA "I am pro concealed carry. That's why permits are needed. If the person is truly pro police they will have no issue with showing ID and permit. Then bam your on your way. It's always considerate to tell an officer you are armed. I do it any time I'm stopped. "

[P5Ret]

Any cop that thinks the ability of a citizen to carry
a firearm legally makes their job more dangerous is dreaming IMO.

I think your view is somewhat myopic here, considering that there are 7+ states that allow carry with no permitting whatsoever. Do I think that the average person who carry's is a threat? Not at all, but lets not forget that there are loosely organized group's of people who present a significant threat to law enforcement, some of whom live in those states, and or "roam" the highways of the country, and yes some of them have been known to have CCW's and or reside in one of the Constitutional Carry states. That does not make them any less of a threat.

The plain and simple truth is everyone gets treated with the same courtesy, and caution until action's dictate otherwise.

[BHLiu11]

Do you guys (Current or retired LEOs) have any specific directives from your department? or it's a judgement call based on officers' experience and understanding of the law? Letter of the law vs spirit of the law thing? Again, I just want to further my understanding and knowledge. I know that current LEOs are having a hard time doing their jobs due to idiots who like to film only the end of the situations.

To all the past, present, and future LEOs .. Thank you again for protecting and serving the citizens of your community.

[R Dale]

I think your view is somewhat myopic here, considering that there are 7+ states that allow carry with no permitting whatsoever. Do I think that the average person who carry's is a threat? Not at all, but lets not forget that there are loosely organized group's of people who present a significant threat to law enforcement, some of whom live in those states, and or "roam" the highways of the country, and yes some of them have been known to have CCW's and or reside in one of the Constitutional Carry states. That does not make them any less of a threat.

The plain and simple truth is everyone gets treated with the same courtesy, and caution until action's dictate otherwise.

I think we all can agree there are people everywhere that pose a threat to LE including a few with CCW's, I say a few because I don't think the facts bear out that there are a large percentage
of permit holder committing crimes. That being said my point was the same people that are a threat to LE would be so no matter if they lived in a pro gun state or not or if they had a permit
or not and I don't think LE is at anymore risk if they work in a pro gun state.