Retired CDCR concealed carry

[steve parker]

I'm having trouble finding definitive information about retired CDCR parole agents and concealed carry. Assuming possession of a valid CDCR Retired ID Card with concealed carry authorization on the back:

1. How often is qualification required? Quarterly? Yearly? Every five years?

2. Do you have to qualify with each gun you wish to carry? Or only the same type (semi-auto and revolver)? Thanks.

[camaroguy2012]

Once a year for nationwide carry, every 5 years for CA carry, your local SD should have a requal program for retired, i know lasd does

[camaroguy2012]

Oh and there has been some debate on it, but from the wording of the law if you want to carry a semi, qual with a semi, if you want a revolver, qual with one or do both. I dont carry a revolver so I just shoot once

[stormvet]

Call the nearest prison, ask for thier in-service-training extension. All prisons have times and dates set aside to re-qual for off duty carry, retires included.
Once a year if retired. For active PO, you qual with individual guns, not Semi or revolver only. Imagine the same for retired, but not 100% sure. No reason they would not re-qual a Parole Agent.

[Eirerogue]

HR218 has no restrictions on autos or revolvers. You qualify and can carry either. It is not weapon specific.

[P5Ret]

HR218 has no restrictions on autos or revolvers. You qualify and can carry either. It is not weapon specific.

Which brings up an interesting question. The agency I have to qual with now (the agency I retired from went to a SO contract) lists weapons individually not by type. How would that effect carrying something not on the form letter they issue, out of state, since the LEOSA is not weapon specific? Not trying to rock the boat at the SO, just generally curious as to what other's who are probably smarter than I am opinion on it.

[RickD427]

HR218 has no restrictions on autos or revolvers. You qualify and can carry either. It is not weapon specific.

Sir,

LEOSA does make a distinction as to the weapon "type" that a retired LEO may carry. The "type" of weapon must be the same as the "type" of weapon that the retired officer qualified with during the prior year. Please refer to 18 USC 926A.

There may be some room to interpret the word "type". My former agency considered revolvers, semi-autos, rifles, shotguns and crew-served weapons to be different "types" for the purpose of 18 USC 926C.

Under that reading of "type", a revolver qualification only covers revolvers and a semi-auto qualification only covers semi-autos.

On the other hand, if you consider the term "type" to mean the type of weapon that shoots something through the barrel, then you would be correct.

[Eirerogue]

That type issue changed in the last LEOSA amendment. Any handgun semi or revolver. As you know LEOSA is a patchwork of confusion.

[Eirerogue]

Note from NRA LE:
No. LEOSA does not require the agency to maintain this information. This is a frequent concern given the statute's use of the term "type of firearm." LEOSA authorizes the carrying of a "concealed firearm" of the same "type" the individual receives certification for.

As there is no case law interpreting this wording, the word "type" should be read to conform with the dictionary definition; something distinguishable as a variety. Accordingly, "type" of firearm should be read to mean either long gun or hand gun, which would permit you to carry any type of legal long gun or hand gun based on your qualification and not one particular make, model, or caliber.