FED LEO here - may transfer to LA - what's that mean for my modest gun collection

[caption]

Hi,

Not the most pressing of questions, but here goes. I'm a Federal LEO (1811) and may move to California to take an assignment in LA.

I have a small gun collection (couple of pistols I use for USPSA, 16" AR, precision bolt gun, shotgun, lots of 'hi cap' magazines, etc.)

What will I need to do to be California-compliant?

Thanks.

[P5Ret]

I think that your good to go on everything but the ar. The mags should not be an issue, but doj opinions change with the wind it seem regarding fed leo's and mags. The ar has to be Ca compliant (fixed mag, with a capacity no greater than 10 rounds) the exception to that is if you have a letter authorizing it's use on duty.
Your best bet is to check with someone at your new office, they may be more up on what Ca DOJ says is good to go.

[pacrat]

Your AR must have a "bullet button" type mag release. You cannot put a +10 round mag into the AR while in the state of Commyfornia. Or you have according to state law manufactured an Assault Weapon illegaly.

If the barrel on your shotty is over the 18" minimum and its overall lenght is over the 26" minimun. It is GTG as is.

Welcome to Commyfornia

[RickD427]

Hi,

Not the most pressing of questions, but here goes. I'm a Federal LEO (1811) and may move to California to take an assignment in LA.

I have a small gun collection (couple of pistols I use for USPSA, 16" AR, precision bolt gun, shotgun, lots of 'hi cap' magazines, etc.)

What will I need to do to be California-compliant?

Thanks.

Determine if your 16" AR is an "Evil by Name" Assault Weapon, or an "Evil by Feature" Assault Weapon. If it is an "Evil by Name" AW, then you cannot lawfully import it. If it is "Evil by Feature", then you can remove it from being an Assault Weapon by fitting it with a "Bullet Button."

If your pistols are in a legal configuration, you can bring them in even if they are off the roster. You'll need to register them with the state within 60 days of arrival (and pay a $19.00 fee).

Forget about importing the large-capacity magazines. The legal-standard capacity for magazines in California is 10 rounds or less. You don't get a personal exemption for importation by virtue of federal law enforcement employment. Your agency does get an exemption and may import magazines for your use.

There may be a basis to argue the LEOSA exempts you from the state restrictions. That's gonna be an uphill fight. The Federal DOJ has already opined that the LEOSA does not trump state laws regarding magazine capacity. However California has a state court decision (People v Hale) holding that a magazine is a part of the weapon and the LEOSA does trump state law on weapons. There is also an Illinois state court ruling (not authoritative in California) that the LEOSA does trump state law on "Assault Weapons." The problem with claiming the LEOSA privilege is that you have to volunteer to sit in the defendant's chair for the test case.

[CSACANNONEER]

First, use the links to the flowcharts found in the header and verify that none of your firearms will be considered AWs under CA law. Then, read CA PC 32400-32450 and see if you are exempt from IMPORTING +10 round mags.

32400. Section 32310 does not apply to the sale of, giving of,
lending of, importation into this state of, or purchase of, any
large-capacity magazine to or by any federal, state, county, city and
county, or city agency that is charged with the enforcement of any
law, for use by agency employees in the discharge of their official
duties, whether on or off duty, and where the use is authorized by
the agency and is within the course and scope of their duties.

Note, there may be other exemptions which apply to you but, it appears to me that PC 32400 ONLY allows you to import +10 round mags for official use.

[Ninety]

CA PC 30500-30530

Can't find the PC stating it.. But..

In CA regarding the AR a barrel <16" must have its flash hider/muzzle break "permanently" attached to bring it to its overall length of 16+" i.e. pinned and welded...

[RickD427]

First, use the links to the flowcharts found in the header and verify that none of your firearms will be considered AWs under CA law. Then, read CA PC 32400-32450 and see if you are exempt from IMPORTING +10 round mags.



Note, there may be other exemptions which apply to you but, it appears to me that PC 32400 ONLY allows you to import +10 round mags for official use.

PC section 34000 applies only to the federal agency. It does not create an exemption for agency employees.

[P5Ret]

It appears I was wrong and don't have a problem admitting to my error, apologies if I lead you in the wrong direction.

[CSACANNONEER]

PC section 34000 applies only to the federal agency. It does not create an exemption for agency employees.

Bad wording on my part.

[caption]

Thanks for the replies.

(there'll be no letters from my agency - so I'll be a regular joe - no problem.)

Now if I can just rectify the high cost of living with the benefits of SoCal life.

Maybe that's a topic for new thread. I would be curious to see the replies for that.

[CBR_rider]

Now if I can just rectify the high cost of living with the benefits of SoCal life.

Hopefully by "SoCal" you mean somewhere like parts of Ventura, Santa Barbara, San Diego, or Orange counties... There are some other "good places" to live; but I know I can't afford them on a LEO salary.

[Unit74]

Thanks for the replies.

(there'll be no letters from my agency - so I'll be a regular joe - no problem.)

Now if I can just rectify the high cost of living with the benefits of SoCal life.

Maybe that's a topic for new thread. I would be curious to see the replies for that.

I left for a reason, brother.....unless you going for high three or family, I suggest you decline. California is a cancer on the United States, along with Jersey, DC and New York.

[hey_scooter]

I left for a reason, brother.....unless you going for high three or family, I suggest you decline. California is a cancer on the United States, along with Jersey, DC and New York.

It's not uncommon for people to go from those cities you mentioned to get out from that area. Lesser of evils I guess. I have a few 1811 friends that went from a larger east coast city to CA just to change it up.

[Che762x39]

... and may move to California to take an assignment in LA.

(Long time) Californio here. Most shooters who move here get into new hobbies. i.e. you duck hunt? No one in your office hunts. You like outdoors you will be bike riding or sailing. 30 years ago in L.A. County was 40 outdoor shooting areas. Now maybe four. So you'll drive a hour or two to shoot outdoors. Indoor ranges was not my favorite but now that is the best option and we have a few good ones. Good luck

[CSACANNONEER]

I left for a reason, brother.....unless you going for high three or family, I suggest you decline. California is a cancer on the United States, along with Jersey, DC and New York.

Some run from trouble and others fight for their rights.