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  • LtJim
    Member
    • May 2012
    • 180

    Politics & Law Enforcement - Baltimore

    Once again it has happened--Monday night there were the riots in Baltimore. The Mayor- (Ahemmm!) put herself right in the middle of the decision making process and orders the Baltimore Police to "stand down". Based on her decision, BPD had to back off and watch the situation deteriorate.

    Then what happened Tuesday Night? Clearly someone got ahold of the Mayor and showed her the light.---Tuesdays response by Baltimore PD was "Text Book" Riot control! The politician was removed from the equation, law enforcement was given the green light ---situation handled to successful conclusion.

    Now in the days after --the NAACP is chiming in defending the mayor's decision, rather than law enforcement--

    Hmmm--Shades of "Florence & Normandie - Reginald Denny" History repeats itself.

    What we learned in 1992, after the initial "inaction" that resulted in chaos, was that if you go in with an overwhelming use of force and put the situation down immediately the problem can be solved more effectively. And that is exactly how LASD SEB has handled similar situations since. ---With effective results!

    Would love to hear thoughts from fellow LEOs who have stood the line during major disturbances and your feelings on the current events on the East Coast!

    Listen to Law Enforcements reaction to Mayors Decision Making on Monday Night! It is Criminal!!!
  • #2
    SonofWWIIDI
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2011
    • 21583

    Wait, you mean that the overlords don't really know what's best for us?

    Surprise, surprise, surprise.
    Sorry, not sorry.
    🎺

    Dear autocorrect, I'm really getting tired of your shirt!

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    • #3
      74c5
      Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 323

      When the inmates run the jail..................

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      • #4
        Samuelx
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 1558

        Originally posted by 74c5
        When the inmates run the jail..................
        I see you and raise you a when an inmate lover runs half of the department and the rest of the brass just stand by and don't do anything about it...

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        • #5
          1CavScout
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 3234

          I am glad I did not work for an agency that answered to a mayor.

          I was on a team that responded to situations involving civil unrest. Like you stated, you respond with enough force to gain control of the situation as quickly as possible. You also attempt to identify the agitators and arrest them as quickly as possible.

          What happened in Baltimore was pathetic. People throwing concrete and bricks at officers and no force is used. We always had several options available, including officers with rifles if lethal force was needed. Hopefully the injured officers recover from their injuries, and maybe some type of suit against the mayor would be appropriate.
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          • #6
            CBR_rider
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 2706

            It's our fault when riots happen, it's our fault when they are put down "too aggressively," its our fault when they aren't put down aggressively enough, etc. As has already been said, politicians need to put capable leaders in place BEFORE things go bad and then trust those leaders to make the right decisions in their respective fields instead of meddling in affairs of which they know nothing.
            Originally posted by bwiese
            [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
            Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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            • #7
              yzErnie
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Mar 2007
              • 6309

              Voting has consequences.
              The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

              Originally posted by RazoE
              I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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              • #8
                Spanky8601
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 2276

                Originally posted by CBR_rider
                It's our fault when riots happen, it's our fault when they are put down "too aggressively," its our fault when they aren't put down aggressively enough, etc. As has already been said, politicians need to put capable leaders in place BEFORE things go bad and then trust those leaders to make the right decisions in their respective fields instead of meddling in affairs of which they know nothing.
                Law Enforcement has become the public whipping child for the left. Any time that LE does their job and there are unintended consequences the politicians will drive the bus over LE.

                The left used this tactic in the late 60ies and early 70ies with Armed Forces. The left still hates the Armed Forces, but realizes that open contempt and hate loses votes.
                May I always be the type of person my dog thinks I am

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                • #9
                  TRICKSTER
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 12438

                  I have a feeling that there will be quite a few Baltimore officers shopping for another department.


                  Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

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                  • #10
                    pacrat
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • May 2014
                    • 10284

                    SAG throws officers under bus



                    Who didn't see this coming?

                    IMO, due to conflicts of interest, she should have recused herself before she ever opened her yap at press conference. Because of those same conflicts she should have not been allowed anywhere near this investigation.

                    JM2c

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                    • #11
                      1CavScout
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 3234

                      Originally posted by pacrat
                      http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fop...ers/ar-BBj2K14

                      Who didn't see this coming?

                      IMO, due to conflicts of interest, she should have recused herself before she ever opened her yap at press conference. Because of those same conflicts she should have not been allowed anywhere near this investigation.

                      JM2c
                      I stated the same in OT, but you know how that goes with the cop haters there. She should not be the prosecutor handling this case.

                      I am glad I am retired. I was devastated when I was forced to medically retire from an on duty injury, but I think it was actually a blessing in disguise. I feel for you guys still on the job.
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                      • #12
                        Tripper
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 7628

                        In salinas, when there was unrest, a few months ago, PD was told to ignore the folks spraying graffiti and vandalizing 'the police station' in front of them
                        That was actually a successful action in that things did not escalate
                        WTB NAA Belt Buckle
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                        • #13
                          yzErnie
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 6309

                          Originally posted by 1CavScout
                          I am glad I am retired. I feel for you guys still on the job.
                          Amen.
                          The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

                          Originally posted by RazoE
                          I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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                          • #14
                            zack_trp1911
                            Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 309

                            We are seeing that everyday at our agency. However it's more of the command staff rather than the mayor.

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                            • #15
                              Ninety
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 4062

                              Originally posted by TRICKSTER
                              I have a feeling that there will be quite a few Baltimore officers shopping for another department.
                              This^

                              I hope they lose their whole department after what has been done to them from the Mayor to the State Prosecutor and the brass..

                              I feel sorry for all the officers on the force and am interested to see what happens at the trial for the 6 accused...
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