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  • sigstroker
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2009
    • 19845

    Botach has some Q stuff on sale.

    tactical gear, law enforcement equipment, military gear, body armor, optics


    Erector 9mm can for $630, Erector 22 can for $330 (not a bad price at all), and Honey Badger for $2450.
  • #2
    AAShooter
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • May 2010
    • 7188

    I quite doing business with Botach a long time ago.

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    • #3
      sigstroker
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2009
      • 19845

      Some people here live in Vegas and can talk to someone face to face.

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      • #4
        PogoJack
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2014
        • 2167

        I was in Vegas the other day and needed some emergency body work on my car. Found Dave?s Body Works, awesome and amazing people who were able to get the job done and it looked great. Anyways what do I see next door but M-13 Industries. I was gobsmacked. They are open to the public but by appointment only according to the sign on the door. Bummer, cause I wanted to check it out and take something home.
        "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis

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        • #5
          sigstroker
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2009
          • 19845

          Everyone is always bagging on Botach, for good reasons. But they are getting better and when they do something right, it should be mentioned.

          They screwed up an order. The guy that picked it for packing picked one BOX of ammo instead of one CASE that I ordered. Obviously the guy is no rocket surgeon and most people would double, triple, and quadruple check it. Who's going to order 20 rounds of ammo? The invoice clearly says CASE and "(200 rounds)" too. I was a little confused, and disappointed, when I got a package the size of a rubik's cube.

          BUT, they fixed it pretty quick, and shipped me a full case within a week. That's the important part.

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          • #6
            CBR_rider
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 2749

            I want that honey Badger bad… but I really don’t want to pay what it costs to feed it.
            Originally posted by bwiese
            [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
            Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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            • #7
              sigstroker
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2009
              • 19845

              Originally posted by CBR_rider
              I want that honey Badger bad? but I really don?t want to pay what it costs to feed it.
              AAC (PSA) has a lot of different Blackout offerings now. I think it starts around 50 cents a round, which is pretty close to .223 princes.

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              • #8
                beanz2
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2008
                • 12032

                Originally posted by CBR_rider
                I want that honey Badger bad? but I really don?t want to pay what it costs to feed it.
                You can have it in 5.56, but you have to cut the barrel to get the same configuration: https://hodgdonandarmsretailstore.co...5-56-16-rifle/ and pay Biden’s men $200.
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                The wife will be pissed, but Jesus always forgives.

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                • #9
                  CBR_rider
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 2749

                  Originally posted by sigstroker
                  AAC (PSA) has a lot of different Blackout offerings now. I think it starts around 50 cents a round, which is pretty close to .223 princes.
                  Originally posted by beanz2
                  You can have it in 5.56, but you have to cut the barrel to get the same configuration: https://hodgdonandarmsretailstore.co...5-56-16-rifle/ and pay Biden?s men $200.
                  50cpr? It?s finally coming back down then; I think I bought a small stash at about 45cpr or so a long time ago. I was going to buy some more a few months back to go with some other ammo I purchased and the cheapest .300blk was almost 70cpr.

                  I?ve seen the 5.56 (are those all the sugar weasels?); I don?t know I?ve wanted a honey Badger for years just because it looks like fun but if I?m going to spend that kind of money on a range toy/maaaybe home defense weapon I could be getting into HK clones, stribog, more suppressors, save up more money for a belt fed AR upper, etc. as it is I have currently redirected some of my new hunting rifle ammo for another project (but I did get a new scope for my current rifle at least).
                  Originally posted by bwiese
                  [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
                  Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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                  • #10
                    sigstroker
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 19845

                    Originally posted by CBR_rider
                    50cpr? It?s finally coming back down then; I think I bought a small stash at about 45cpr or so a long time ago. I was going to buy some more a few months back to go with some other ammo I purchased and the cheapest .300blk was almost 70cpr.
                    AFAIK it's only AAC so far that's selling it for a reasonable price.



                    I?ve seen the 5.56 (are those all the sugar weasels?); I don?t know I?ve wanted a honey Badger for years just because it looks like fun but if I?m going to spend that kind of money on a range toy/maaaybe home defense weapon I could be getting into HK clones, stribog, more suppressors, save up more money for a belt fed AR upper, etc. as it is I have currently redirected some of my new hunting rifle ammo for another project (but I did get a new scope for my current rifle at least).
                    Yeah, I wanted a Rattler ever since I saw the best gun commercial in history.



                    It's almost certainly a Brittingham design from when he was at SIG, that closely resembles the Honey Badger. They're about $2500 too, but SIG took mercy on shooters by selling a conversion kit that goes on an ordinary AR lower. It's still damn near 2 grand, but several hundred less overall than a whole Rattler.

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                    • #11
                      sigstroker
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 19845

                      F Y I



                      It's an old video, and I'm not sure his complaint about the Honey Badger mlok is valid. I thought they used Q-serts or whatever, that are low profile and will fit.

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                      • #12
                        beanz2
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 12032

                        Originally posted by CBR_rider

                        I?ve seen the 5.56 (are those all the sugar weasels?); I don?t know I?ve wanted a honey Badger for years just because it looks like fun but if I?m going to spend that kind of money on a range toy/maaaybe home defense weapon I could be getting into HK clones, stribog, more suppressors, save up more money for a belt fed AR upper, etc. as it is I have currently redirected some of my new hunting rifle ammo for another project (but I did get a new scope for my current rifle at least).
                        This is the Honey Badger:


                        This is the Sugar Weasel:


                        Note the differences in the lower receiver.

                        But, yeah, I can't say I use mine for any meaningful purpose
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                        The wife will be pissed, but Jesus always forgives.

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                        • #13
                          Vinnie Boombatz
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2020
                          • 3036

                          I’ve ordered a few times from Botach a few times with no issues.
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