AZ propositions

[sigstroker]

There are lots of confusing sounding propositions on the ballot. I just looked in:

https://azgop.com/know-the-props

[the_tunaman]

…as designed for the low-IQ low-information voters.

[Dan_Eastvale]

How’s GOP campaigning down there?
Hopefully they’re convincing and not being overwhelmed by the Democrats
We can’t loose these battlefield states

[LBDamned]

Lake is killing it for governor... Masters is doing okay for senator - gop isn't funding or it would be better.

Governor will remain Republican.

Several America First / Save America rallies... Trump speaks, Lake and Masters do too... unity is strong - but it was last election too, so who knows.

[sigstroker]

It's not a matter of whether the Sec State, who's running for governor too, and/or her minions will cheat. It's a matter of how much they'll get away with. Everything will basically be in the hands of Republican poll watchers and workers.

So if you're in Maricopa County, contact the Republican party of AZ, they're organizing the effort.

[stormvet]

I can’t believe how many of them I’m going to vote yes on. Totally different then my California prop voting were just about everything was a hard NO.

This is where I stand right now, if I’m missing something let me know.

128-yes
129-yes
131-yes
132-yes
209-no
211-no
308-no
309-yes
310-no

[sigstroker]

That's what the website said to go with.

[mej16489]

Thoughts on Prop 130?

[stormvet]

Thoughts on Prop 130?

[LBDamned]

Thoughts on Prop 130?

Allowing legislators to give leniency to specific groups... while it may seem innocent and helpful - always ends up,with unintended consequences... pandering, people taking advantage, etc...

Stuff like that never turns out the way it is initially perceived (whether intentional or due to shady tactics after the fact).

[LBDamned]

Dens are against any low lowering of taxes for any reason...

103 might 'seem' like the right idea - but it's ripe for shady chit.

I'm a no.

[LBDamned]

One thing I learned from living in CA for five decades, is what to look out for early...

I know some AZ natives that understand it now... l b damned, he was right

[Dan_Eastvale]

Ballot counting observers better be on their toes with races in AZ so tight.
No kicking out because of a leaky toilet

[sigstroker]

Dens are against any low lowering of taxes for any reason...

103 might 'seem' like the right idea - but it's ripe for shady chit.

I'm a no.

Look at the text of the bill - it simplifies the Constitution substantially. That makes me suspicious, when detailed law gets simplified to a few lines. That opens the door for "someone" to "interpret" it.

Then there's this:

Using the Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level (FKGL)

The FKGL for the ballot summary is grade level 19

Does that mean you have to be a friggin law school graduate to read it?

Also, tax exemptions were enacted over a century, it sounds weird to wipe all that out with one proposition.

[sigstroker]

Also saw this. Note that tucson.com is the web presence of the leftist rag Arizona Daily star. Also note this is not an editorial, it's a letter to the editor.

https://tucson.com/opinion/letters/local-issues/letter-reject-proposition-130-it-misrepresents-the-real-agenda-correction-to-previous-letter/article_b6275db4-4fbd-11ed-87e7-9b7aae6cd583.html

The Arizona constitution requires voter approval to change personal property tax rates. This proposition takes away your rights to approve or reject changes to the amounts of the property tax exemptions allowed in Arizona. The ballot language is misleading: “...veterans with disabilities, widows, and widowers.” Seems very sympathetic, right? But see page 73 of your General Election Publicity Pamphlet. The Senate Concurrent Resolution 1011 (from which this proposition derives) states that the proposition ALSO applies to agricultural and business property tax exemptions.

This means that the legislature will be free to grant more generous exemptions to two of their favorite contributors, big business and agriculture, WITHOUT VOTER APPROVAL.

Even Senator Martin Quezada, the Democratic candidate for Arizona Treasurer, spoke AGAINST this proposition at a recent Zoom meeting that presented arguments for and against each proposition.