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  • sigstroker
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2009
    • 19741

    Calling HK and clone owners

    I have to post this here, and not in the General Population forums, or the kalis get mad.

    You guys that have HK roller delayed (I hate saying MP5 unless it's a real MP5) pistols, I imagine most have a brace. What are the trials and tribulations of having an HK/clone with a brace?

    I guess you need something to replace the end cap?

    Then you need a doohickey to mount the brace on?

    How much of a pain is it?

    I'm liking the idea of just typing in a cc number, and a week later have something I can mount my cans on, and go. I seem to have plenty of 9mm stuff, but it either needs wrenching on, the barrels are too long (16"), it's open bolt, or something that makes it less than satisfying.
  • #2
    Milsurp1
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2016
    • 3091

    I shoot my AP5 with a sling. No brace. I will either AOW it or SBR it.

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    • #3
      EBR Works
      Vendor/Retailer
      • Dec 2007
      • 10492

      You should find what you need here:

      Shop the largest selection of factory and aftermarket Heckler and Koch parts, upgrades, and accessories for MP5, SP5, VP9, P30, HK416, MR556, G3, and more. HK Parts is your one-stop source for HK magazines, handguards, triggers, stocks, barrels, bolts, and complete parts kits.


      Pull the pins on the cap and attach it. No drama.

      We converted a Z-5P to a post sample gun with this B&T stock from them:



      Expensive, but very high quality from B&T.
      Last edited by EBR Works; 09-21-2022, 5:54 PM.


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      • #4
        Romeo_alpha01
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2017
        • 2029

        Originally posted by Milsurp1
        I shoot my AP5 with a sling. No brace. I will either AOW it or SBR it.
        I find my SP5 is actually easier to shoot just with sling tension. I've shot post samples with an A2 and A3 stock and it just seemed awkward. This is even more pronounced when you have an optic mounted.

        I use the factory three point on my SP5

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        • #5
          highpower
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2012
          • 5303

          Originally posted by sigstroker
          I have to post this here, and not in the General Population forums, or the kalis get mad.

          You guys that have HK roller delayed (I hate saying MP5 unless it's a real MP5) pistols, I imagine most have a brace. What are the trials and tribulations of having an HK/clone with a brace?

          I guess you need something to replace the end cap?

          Then you need a doohickey to mount the brace on?

          How much of a pain is it?

          I'm liking the idea of just typing in a cc number, and a week later have something I can mount my cans on, and go. I seem to have plenty of 9mm stuff, but it either needs wrenching on, the barrels are too long (16"), it's open bolt, or something that makes it less than satisfying.

          A brace is easy-peasy to install. The biggest drawback is the amount of ammo you go through and the cost of magazines. So far I have found that Gun Mag Warehouse has the best price on mags @$44.95 each. They are made by MKE, the same folks that made my MP5 clone. They are an exact duplicate of a genuine HK mag at 2/3 the price. I currently have a dozen magazines, equally divided between POF and MKE, they all look exactly the same and all function perfectly.

          I currently have the SB Tactical brace and I have no issues with it. I am on the fence regarding the brace amnesty, but if I decide to remove the brace and just go with a sling I would be okay with that.

          Last edited by highpower; 09-21-2022, 6:27 PM.
          MLC member.

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          Dumocraps suck balls.

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          • #6
            sigstroker
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2009
            • 19741

            Originally posted by Milsurp1
            I shoot my AP5 with a sling. No brace. I will either AOW it or SBR it.
            You don't need either for a sling.

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            • #7
              sigstroker
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2009
              • 19741

              Originally posted by EBR Works
              You should find what you need here:

              Shop the largest selection of factory and aftermarket Heckler and Koch parts, upgrades, and accessories for MP5, SP5, VP9, P30, HK416, MR556, G3, and more. HK Parts is your one-stop source for HK magazines, handguards, triggers, stocks, barrels, bolts, and complete parts kits.


              Pull the pins on the cap and attach it. No drama.

              We converted a Z-5P to a post sample gun with this B&T stock from them:



              Expensive, but very high quality from B&T.
              I don't like expensive, but that pic rail cap looks okay.

              Originally posted by Romeo_alpha01
              I find my SP5 is actually easier to shoot just with sling tension. I've shot post samples with an A2 and A3 stock and it just seemed awkward. This is even more pronounced when you have an optic mounted.

              I use the factory three point on my SP5
              Why is the stock awkward with optics? The optic sits too high?

              Originally posted by highpower
              A brace is easy-peasy to install. The biggest drawback is the amount of ammo you go through and the cost of magazines. So far I have found that Gun Mag Warehouse has the best price on mags @$44.95 each. They are made by MKE, the same folks that made my MP5 clone. They are an exact duplicate of a genuine HK mag at 2/3 the price. I currently have a dozen magazines, equally divided between POF and MKE, they all look exactly the same and all function perfectly.

              I currently have the SB Tactical brace and I have no issues with it. I am on the fence regarding the brace amnesty, but if I decide to remove the brace and just go with a sling I would be okay with that.

              That brace might be fine if the lop is short enough.

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              • #8
                Milsurp1
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2016
                • 3091

                Originally posted by sigstroker
                You don't need either for a sling.
                Thanks, but yes I was aware of that.

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                • #9
                  beanz2
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 12032

                  Originally posted by sigstroker
                  I have to post this here, and not in the General Population forums, or the kalis get mad.

                  You guys that have HK roller delayed (I hate saying MP5 unless it's a real MP5) pistols, I imagine most have a brace. What are the trials and tribulations of having an HK/clone with a brace?

                  I guess you need something to replace the end cap?

                  Then you need a doohickey to mount the brace on?

                  How much of a pain is it?

                  I'm liking the idea of just typing in a cc number, and a week later have something I can mount my cans on, and go. I seem to have plenty of 9mm stuff, but it either needs wrenching on, the barrels are too long (16"), it's open bolt, or something that makes it less than satisfying.
                  Yes, you need a doohickey to mount your brace if your clone does not come with a brace. Very easy to replace, push the pins out, remove the trigger housing and the end plate comes off.

                  All of my clones are stamped, but the regular reverse stretch is still pretending to be a pistol as I am too cheap to spend $650-900 for a real HK A3 F-type stock. Waiting for POF A3 stocks to come back. The regular sized clone is using a B&T folding stock. The SD is getting an ACR stock, the black ones are OOS everywhere so I settled for an FDE stock. Some Rit Dye action and it will soon sport a blackface.

                  Maybe I should have waited for the free stamp, but I heard about it too late. I assumed Biden's ATF will not give us any break

                  .
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                  The wife will be pissed, but Jesus always forgives.

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                  • #10
                    SunsetIE
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 2108

                    Heres the same stock setup as above, but made by AC unity at half the price.

                    MP5 Folding Stock, Side Folder, Black, SP5, HK94, MP5SD, PTR9C, PTR9CT, HK33, HK53, HK93, AC-Unity, HK Parts, 03875001551007, ACU-68, RTG Parts

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                    • #11
                      sigstroker
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 19741

                      Originally posted by beanz2
                      Yes, you need a doohickey to mount your brace if your clone does not come with a brace. Very easy to replace, push the pins out, remove the trigger housing and the end plate comes off.

                      All of my clones are stamped, but the regular reverse stretch is still pretending to be a pistol as I am too cheap to spend $650-900 for a real HK A3 F-type stock. Waiting for POF A3 stocks to come back. The regular sized clone is using a B&T folding stock. The SD is getting an ACR stock, the black ones are OOS everywhere so I settled for an FDE stock. Some Rit Dye action and it will soon sport a blackface.

                      Maybe I should have waited for the free stamp, but I heard about it too late. I assumed Biden's ATF will not give us any break

                      .
                      If I bought a clone I'd rather keep it braced. If I did buy one, and did sbr it, I'd probably want to go whole hog and get an A3 stock.

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                      • #12
                        beanz2
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 12032

                        Originally posted by sigstroker
                        If I bought a clone I'd rather keep it braced. If I did buy one, and did sbr it, I'd probably want to go whole hog and get an A3 stock.

                        sigpic
                        The wife will be pissed, but Jesus always forgives.

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                        • #13
                          BakoJ
                          top poster @ utahguns.net
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 2293

                          I have an AC Unity. Makes the firearm much more functional.
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                          Originally posted by HP911
                          sweet jesus, the subject matter experts are 97!
                          Isaiah 41:10
                          So do not fear, for I am with you;
                          do not be dismayed, for I am your God.
                          I will strengthen you and help you;
                          I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.

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                          • #14
                            sigstroker
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 19741

                            Friend of mine had an MP5SD-A3, I remember it being a comfortable stock. I like how the "profile" doesn't get any bigger when it's collapsed, unlike a folder.

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                            • #15
                              sigstroker
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 19741

                              Interesting wrinkle, I found out there's a binary trigger, at least one (Franklin Armory) for HK's. Any word on if they work in the clones?

                              Without saying if you may or may not have one, anyone have any experience with them?

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