PCSing to Ft. Irwin

[jdnoyes]

[RickD427]

First of all, thank you for your service.

The Calguns flow charts are your best reference.

For your handguns, also make sure that you don't have any semi-autos with threaded barrels, or anything similar to the Taurus Judge. Don't worry about the "Safe Handgun" roster. That only applies to weapons you purchase, from an FFL, while in the state.

So long as you're on active duty, there is no requirement to register your handguns with the state. If there is any possibility of your being charged with carrying a loaded, or concealed, weapon, then it may be advantageous to do so. A first time offense is a felony if the weapons are unregistered. Its only a misdemeanor if they are registered to you.

You should be aware of the "Military Assault Weapons Permit." It is technically possible for you to get a permit to bring an assault weapon into the state. The process is extremely cumbersome. You can find the details on the AG's website at: http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pd...s/mawpapp.pdf?

Don't bring in any semi-auto rifle, even if broken down into parts, if the weapon is listed as an "evil by name" assault weapon. The parts are fine. The receiver alone is still an assault weapon.

As for the magazines, please check out the various threads on "AB 48."

[jdnoyes]

[RickD427]

I suspect that you're right about the base commander. I have to think the Military AW program was set up to make it look like military folks were being provided for, but then set up so that it is practically impossible.

California defines two different types of AWs. If you have the "evil by name" AW, meaning its listed as an AW by name (refer to Penal Code section 30510), you cannot bring it into the state, even if you break it down to receiver only. If you have an "evil by feature" AW (refer to Penal Code section 30515), then you can bring it into the state if you remove the defining features. Folks generally do that either by removing the "fixed detachable magazine" through the use of a "bullet button", or by removing the offending features.

[jeg0777]

Are you stationed where you can register your weapons on base now? Once you have them registered in the COPS system then it should follow you to your next duty station since COPS is a nation wide database used by the Army. If it doesn't then at least you will have copies of the paperwork already filled out so the information will be readily available.

[guns4life]

Ft. Irwin...sorry about your luck.

[jdnoyes]

Are you stationed where you can register your weapons on base now? Once you have them registered in the COPS system then it should follow you to your next duty station since COPS is a nation wide database used by the Army. If it doesn't then at least you will have copies of the paperwork already filled out so the information will be readily available.

No currently stationed at Carson and own a home off post . Would never freely register a gun that I didn't have to.

[jdnoyes]

Ft. Irwin...sorry about your luck.

Im trying to have a positive outlook on Irwin. To me its all about making the best out of every job the Army has asked or will ask me to do. However, I'm honestly shocked by the laws of the state and their apparent disregard for Soldiers and law abiding gun owners. I can assure you I would never even consider moving to California under my own free will even for a lucrative job offer.

[chris]

Bummer sorry about your luck.

[chris]

Bummer sorry about your luck.

[Full Clip]

Many thanks for your service, and I'm sorry you are being sucked into a state that does not respect the Constitution that you've worked hard to uphold.

[jeg0777]

No currently stationed at Carson and own a home off post . Would never freely register a gun that I didn't have to.

Register it there now or at Irwin when you get there. Either way they are going to end up in the same database. Just like your vehicles are registered on post they will be able to pull up your information and change what they need to so it reflect you being at Irwin.

[SoldierLife7]

I suspect that you're right about the base commander. I have to think the Military AW program was set up to make it look like military folks were being provided for, but then set up so that it is practically impossible.

California defines two different types of AWs. If you have the "evil by name" AW, meaning its listed as an AW by name (refer to Penal Code section 30510), you cannot bring it into the state, even if you break it down to receiver only. If you have an "evil by feature" AW (refer to Penal Code section 30515), then you can bring it into the state if you remove the defining features. Folks generally do that either by removing the "fixed magazine" through the use of a "bullet button", or by removing the offending features.

^ This is the best answer concerning ARs. Also keep in mind no magazines that can accept over 10 rounds.

I recently went through a similar dilemma before moving here.

[RickD427]

Im trying to have a positive outlook on Irwin. To me its all about making the best out of every job the Army has asked or will ask me to do. However, I'm honestly shocked by the laws of the state and their apparent disregard for Soldiers and law abiding gun owners. I can assure you I would never even consider moving to California under my own free will even for a lucrative job offer.

I can sympathize. I did "back-to-back" tours in Alaska. The first was patrolling the Aleutian Islands and Bering Sea. I was actually "arm twisted" by my detailer into taking the second. The key point is that I came to enjoy the place very much and had two very good tours there.

The other good point is that that you're next tour will probably be much better, wherever it is.

Later in my career, I had postings to Marina Del Rey and Newport Beach. The service will eventually pay you back for all that you do (and that works both ways).

There's a lot to do outside of "Patton's Paradise." I hope that you'll have time to see some of our state. It does have a lot to offer, you just have to adapt to some really nutso gun laws and learn not to take some our our fellow residents too seriously.

[jdnoyes]

Its a shame that a state that started as such a place of freedom and opportunity has become so removed from their roots. I refuse to let it get me down. I'm going to continue to practice my rights as a gun owner right up to the limit of the law while I'm there. As an outdoorsman I'm also looking forward to exploring all the great natural wonders the state has to offer. I know there are plenty of like minded people both military and civilian in the state and I'm thankful that I have a resource like this forum otherwise I'd need a law degree to navigate the insanity that is California gun law.