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  • prc77
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 2578

    Veterans PTSD/ Firearms at risk

    Have you seen this?

    Sellout is worse than the Feinstein gun ban! {flike} Urgent action required. It is urgent that every gun owner call their Senators today and demand that they oppose the “See a Shrink, Lose your Guns” sell-out bill that is being authored by Senators Pat Toomey (R) and Joe Manchin (D) – but which also has Chuck Schumer’s fingerprints all over … Read more
    C Co. 509th ABN/PFDR
    83-85

    USPSA CRO
    MEMBER: USPSA, GSSF, Richmond Rod & Gun, Sunnyvale Rod & Gun


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  • #2
    Tracer666
    Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 265

    Dam liberals wont stop will they...Whats wrong with people!?!
    "All gave some and Some gave all"

    RIP SGT Carlo "Eugie" Eugenio

    KIA 29 OCT 2011 Camp Phoenix, Kabul, AFG

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    • #3
      Bongo Truck
      Member
      CGN Contributor
      • Jul 2010
      • 153

      In their eyes we make up an unregulated militia, they fear what doesn't exist.

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      • #4
        tnlrat37
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 2166

        Wow I was always worried they would try this. My dad is on 100% ptsd disability from "NAM" and he has quite a few guns. I wonder if this means I need to transfer all of them into my name just in case? Problem is hes in AZ so that makes it even harder and more expensive. Plus he lives in the boonies and will not want to give them all up and I don't blame him.
        "People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

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        • #5
          crazyucbr
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 794

          I'd like to see how far this one will go.
          "get that evil thing out of the house"

          FFLs/Store I support and recommend:
          Don at Straightline Tactical in Anaheim
          Steve at OC Firearms in Fountain Valley.

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          • #6
            todd2968
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 1674

            Civil war II
            NRA LIFE MEMBER
            VFW LIFEMEMBER

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            • #7
              Ripon83
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2011
              • 6686

              Where it goes no one knows, where it is I can tell you.

              A PTSD diagnosis by the VA right now does not put you on a list that will cost you your guns. I know of a case where a veteran was crying to the media about this and getting lots of sympathy; but of course he failed to mention he kicked the crap out of his wife, had a restraining order against him and pending felony charges - DUH.

              The sad thing is not all of the vets suffer from just PTSD; often PTSD is a symptom of traumatic brain injury or other problems need treatment - some of them can put their gun ownership rights at risk but PTSD alone will not. Politicians blowing smoke about it and our pro gun community making false claims about it need to be corrected.
              Remember the Mighty Midgets



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              • #8
                ILVH8RS
                Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 367

                Ripon83 - I know of a similar if not the same incident your referencing about the idiot who tried to get his 15 mins of fame from the government taking away his guns...and yes, he did forget to mention that he was facing; and ultimately was charged for several felonies.

                I know first hand that a PTSD diagnosis will not bar you from buying/owning/transfering guns. I have been diagnosed with PTSD and fighting it since 2007. It is not something people should take lightly and I agree that mental health should be a larger factor in weather or not someone should be allowed to own/operate a firearm. However, I will be the first to say that there is still not a single law/bill/amendment being proposed that would make anyone safer in this country.

                They can say that "mentally Unstable Vets" are a danger and should not own firearms all they want. But understand, if they want my guns they can habe em back one round at a time. Think if you will for moment everyone...
                Have you ever tried to take food from an angry honey badger? Cuz thats about equal to taking a weapon from a Marine!

                Sorry didn't mean to go on a rant there guys....
                - If you want mine...You better bring yours!!!! Support the fight for 2A rights!!!

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                • #9
                  crazyucbr
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 794

                  Originally posted by todd2968
                  Civil war II
                  Bwhere do I sign up?
                  "get that evil thing out of the house"

                  FFLs/Store I support and recommend:
                  Don at Straightline Tactical in Anaheim
                  Steve at OC Firearms in Fountain Valley.

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                  • #10
                    flipdiver
                    Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 211

                    Most vets withxx

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                    • #11
                      flipdiver
                      Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 211

                      damn computer! As I said, most vets with deployments to Iraq/Stan seems to be given an automatic percentage of PTSD based on their review after deployment. My brother was given 50%, his other friend was given 70%, all based on your answer to the screening. His friend was worried about going through fire academy because of the PTSD rating he was given. Glad he passed and currently going through the academy at this time. Should be looked at on a case by case basis, not a blanket rule!

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                      • #12
                        davirene
                        Junior Member
                        • May 2013
                        • 25

                        My coworker and I are MILTECHS working fulltime at the base.

                        My coworker had his weapons taken away after seeing his shrink the day before. The ATF showed up at his door with a search warrant while we were at work. His wife was detained and all weapons were removed.

                        2 of his neighbors one a retired Navy officer and the other a retired Marine SGM came out and protested to the ATF while they were going thru his house. They were both forced to go back inside there houses or risk being arrested based on obstruction because the ATF didnt like being told they were wrong.

                        8 months later and lots of $$$ for lawyers
                        The court system found the Warrant was based on opinions and not facts. His lawyers tore up the shrink on the stand and his weapons were returned to him.

                        He has 2 tours in Iraq and 1 in Afghanistan so yes he does have PTSD but it does not affect his work ethics. His packet for Green to Gold is now approved and he will be getting his commission soon....he is now moving out of Calif soon.....

                        In the end becareful what you say because somebody might take it out of context....
                        Last edited by davirene; 06-13-2013, 8:04 AM.

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                        • #13
                          NastyNate
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 1697

                          Originally posted by davirene
                          My coworker and I are MILTECHS working fulltime at the base.

                          My coworker had his weapons taken away after seeing his shrink the day before. The ATF showed up at his door with a search warrant while we were at work. His wife was detained and all weapons were removed.

                          2 of his neighbors one a retired Navy officer and the other a retired Marine SGM came out and protested to the ATF while they were going thru his house. They were both forced to go back inside there houses or risk being arrested based on obstruction because the ATF didnt like being told they were wrong.

                          8 months later and lots of $$$ for lawyers
                          The court system found the Warrant was based on opinions and not facts. His lawyers tore up the shrink on the stand and his weapons were returned to him.

                          He has 2 tours in Iraq and 1 in Afghanistan so yes he does have PTSD but it does not affect his work ethics. His packet for Green to Gold is now approved and he will be getting his commission soon....he is now moving out of Calif soon.....

                          In the end becareful what you say because somebody might take it out of context....
                          Was your boy deemed mentally incompetent by the shrink? I was under the impression that the only time this was happening was in instances where mental health providers deem the vet MI and unable to make his own decisions. As a result, he has a caregiver appointed to him and one of the consequences is that they are required to surrender all firearms.
                          -NN

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