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  • Cactuscooler
    Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 184

    Recruiter issues.

    I've been trying to join the military for at least 2 years now. Previously the recruiters told me I wasn't qualified due to legal issues and such, or they weren't interested in enlisting me. The charge wasn't a non waiverable offense, it required me to get a dismissal letter from the DA after the statue of limitations expired.

    Recently ,I went down the Army National Guard recruiter and told them I was interested in joining with 2 other buddies of mine. They said my charges weren't an issue anymore and I should be good to go. We talked with the recruiter for an hour about the enlistment process, and how I would get" stripes for buddies" getting E-3 for bringing my friends in. So the next step for us was to take the Asvab, one of my friends already took the Asvab and passed but he wanted to take it again to get 68W.

    He set up a Asvab testing date for us, and told us to start filling out our SF-86 and applications online. He kept in contact with us briefly then about a week before the Asvab testing date, we tried multiple times to contact him and it would goto voice mail and he never returned our calls We needed to talk to him about getting our MEPS paperwork to grant us access for the Asvab. I know he mentioned October would be better, he explained to us that he previously met mission. I'm just trying to understand why he would flake out on us, or rather 3 potential recruits that were interested in joining?

    I'm frustrated because I'm in top physical shape. I do alot of crossfit and running, I'm more than ready for boot camp. I'm just tired of the games the recruiters play, is it possible to meet one that is genuinely interested in helping people?
    Last edited by Cactuscooler; 10-22-2012, 12:02 AM.
  • #2
    Atomic Donut
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 802

    ****ty recruiter. The army guard did that to me too when I was thinking of going army. If your trying to join the army or air guard in the bay area I know recruiters who can hook you up.

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    • #3
      Cactuscooler
      Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 184

      Originally posted by Rscan925
      ****ty recruiter. The army guard did that to me too when I was thinking of going army. If your trying to join the army or air guard in the bay area I know recruiters who can hook you up.
      I'm in the San Diego area. It doesn't seem like its just my group of friends, my friends cousin tried to join the Coast Guard he had to retake the asvab ( got below a 50) and allowed him to take it again. Then he got a 54 and told him they raised the AFQT to 55!

      I'm not picky either. I'm not one of those guys that's obsesses over all the MOS's I told the recruiter I wanted 11B. I know some people start asking for some crazy unrealistic MOS's and wont sign a contract with a recruiter until a slot opens up.
      Last edited by Cactuscooler; 10-22-2012, 12:26 AM.

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      • #4
        Stanksbeamen
        Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 232

        Look for a different recruiter, is there another office that may be reasonably close?

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        • #5
          Cactuscooler
          Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 184

          Originally posted by Stanksbeamen
          Look for a different recruiter, is there another office that may be reasonably close?
          Yes there is. The question is how do I find a decent one?

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          • #6
            Stanksbeamen
            Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 232

            Originally posted by Cactuscooler
            Yes there is. The question is how do I find a decent one?
            Honestly, not sure. The one you had could of had an emergency/family problems and taken some leave? Have you contacted the office where he works? Maybe just walk-in and talk to one of the other recruiters assigned to that office. Typically there are a few, or talk to his supervisor, not sure really?

            I highly suggest seeing all branch recruiters to see what your options are if you havent already. See how they work, just the way they present information/options to you. When I enlisted I met with all of them, some even more than once to get information and further my knowledge on the military and each branch, then made my decision based on the information I was given.

            Even if you're dead set on the Army, take a few hours and talk to the other recruiters and good luck to you!

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            • #7
              Stockton
              Vendor/Retailer
              • Oct 2007
              • 1316

              They have quotas. To ensure he doesn't roll a doughnut next month he is saving you guys. Crap method to ensure he is doing his job for his command. Find someone else.
              http://youtu.be/7Ii2kyQP-Is

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              • #8
                navycorpsman
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 708

                I agree you have found some crappy recruiters. But, also realize that the military has become quite selective because of downsizing. I mean no excuse for whats going on. But i can honestly say any waivers right now will make your chances of joining close to impossible. I dont want to bring bad news but its a reality you might have to accept also.

                Good Luck
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                • #9
                  winnre
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 9214

                  October is good because it is a new fiscal year. If he was short on his numbers then September would be his push.

                  You have a lousy recruiter. The Marines wined and dined me in high school but just did not have a job I liked. The recruiters should hold your hand all the way through the process.

                  Dunno about 11B though. Check out your ASVAB scores. I was told I could have any job I wanted. Go for the ones that will challenge you. Go with In-Flight Missile Repairman if you have the scores for it. Not many 11B jobs in the civilian world.

                  I just had a buddy lose his clearance for failure to disclose a part of his past. Now he is fighting to get it back or else he is out. It was a harmless omission, he simply thought "Oh I do not need to tell them something so insignificant." One of MY assignments in a past unit was to review everyone's clearance applications. I got the job because I was cleared even after answering YES to some of the HAVE YOU EVER? questions. You want to give them more than they need, show them you have nothing to hide.

                  If all else fails, try another branch. The Air Force recruiter had no time for me and I ended up going Army.
                  "If Jesus had a gun he would be alive today"-Homer Simpson

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                  • #10
                    BrianRodela
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 607

                    I agree with Navycorpsman in the issues regarding downsizing. Add to that the poor economy makes the military a great option for many. Keep this in mind as recruiters can pick and choose who they want these days as they have a line out the door in some offices. Not returning your call is never advisable but they always have trouble avoiding you when you show up in person.
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                    • #11
                      Cactuscooler
                      Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 184

                      Originally posted by winnre
                      October is good because it is a new fiscal year. If he was short on his numbers then September would be his push.

                      You have a lousy recruiter. The Marines wined and dined me in high school but just did not have a job I liked. The recruiters should hold your hand all the way through the process.

                      Dunno about 11B though. Check out your ASVAB scores. I was told I could have any job I wanted. Go for the ones that will challenge you. Go with In-Flight Missile Repairman if you have the scores for it. Not many 11B jobs in the civilian world.

                      I just had a buddy lose his clearance for failure to disclose a part of his past. Now he is fighting to get it back or else he is out. It was a harmless omission, he simply thought "Oh I do not need to tell them something so insignificant." One of MY assignments in a past unit was to review everyone's clearance applications. I got the job because I was cleared even after answering YES to some of the HAVE YOU EVER? questions. You want to give them more than they need, show them you have nothing to hide.

                      If all else fails, try another branch. The Air Force recruiter had no time for me and I ended up going Army.
                      I agree with what all you guys said. I personally believe that the recruiting process should be done at meps with a recruiter, without perhaps incentives involved or commission. The thought of being sold off as a ' sale' leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Clearly the interest of the recruit isn't being looked at as a opportunity to serve, or help his country. It's like going to the car dealership and trying to negotiate a sales price with credit

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                      • #12
                        todd2968
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 1674

                        They no longer need you any more down sizing.
                        There could be other branches that are "hiring" because it sounds like he is not at this time. Don't call us we will call you mentality right now.
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                        • #13
                          Scuba Steve33
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 2339

                          Go to someone else, even someone else at the same office. You aren't restricted to anyone. Figure out what job you want (you mentioned 11B- ****ing good choice) and then find out from guys who actually did that job what you'd be in for, not some dude behind a desk. If this guy doesn't show interest in you, **** him and move on.

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                          • #14
                            Cactuscooler
                            Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 184

                            Originally posted by Scuba Steve33
                            Go to someone else, even someone else at the same office. You aren't restricted to anyone. Figure out what job you want (you mentioned 11B- ****ing good choice) and then find out from guys who actually did that job what you'd be in for, not some dude behind a desk. If this guy doesn't show interest in you, **** him and move on.
                            Yup. My friend who stays with me is a 11B out of 82nd, I seen him go in gung ho and come back on leave after his first deployment and he tells me " Don't join, or don't do 11B". I just want to experience it for myself, maybe i'm a little crazy..

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                            • #15
                              Scuba Steve33
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 2339

                              Originally posted by Cactuscooler
                              Yup. My friend who stays with me is a 11B out of 82nd, I seen him go in gung ho and come back on leave after his first deployment and he tells me " Don't join, or don't do 11B". I just want to experience it for myself, maybe i'm a little crazy..
                              I give the same advice your friend does to people asking me about joining or the infantry. There's few who you can tell have that crazy in them who show interest when you explain it and you need that crazy to be in it.

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