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  • gunace89
    Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 426

    Any AF Security Forces here?

    Im looking into the AF Reserves, and ive been specifically looking at Security Forces. Im wondering for those of you who are, what you think of it, and would you recommend it as a occupation? Thank you all for your service
    Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far-Theodore Roosevelt

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  • #2
    Unit74
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 2359

    What are your future goals? Might help steer you down a better road.

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    • #3
      gunace89
      Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 426

      Future goals as in a civilian career? Im trying to go LE, so thats why I am attracted to SF.
      Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far-Theodore Roosevelt

      Snake Plissken:Got a Smoke?
      Malloy:The United States is a non-smoking nation! No smoking, no drugs, no guns, no alcohol, no women-unless your married-no foul language-no red meat!
      Snake Plissken-(sarcastic)Land of the Free
      Ironic how fiction slowly becomes reality, isnt it?

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      • #4
        Atomic Donut
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2010
        • 802

        I got some SF in my dorms and they said they dont do any police work, but they do more checking IDs and perimeter checks. Half of my boys from bootcamp went sf and say it isn't what they expected. I don't think SF looks any better on a resume than any other AFSC. Loadmaster looks like a fun job, but I went intel because the TS Clearance I received will open more opportunities for me as LEO or even Civilian Intel jobs.

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        • #5
          thebloodsonthewall
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 1143

          I saw those guys down range. They would mount their .50 cals on their up armored vehicles and drive around the big ole FOB they were on. They had to "patrol" the FOB in full kit. I always laughed when I saw them in the DFAC or the gym eyeballing everyone. I wouldn't want to do that job. I hear that MP in the Army and this don't help you get a job in LE. Do something you want to do in the military and have some fun with it. Go active duty you will have many more opportunities open to you.

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          • #6
            Tacit Blue
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 4134

            Do Army mp 31b. Their school is accepted by federal le standards, that says alot. Security forces differs alot, you could be working gates doing entry control. Or you could be patrolling missile fields or a flight line. It all depends what base and unit your assigned To, and they deploy alot in the af.
            "All that is complex is not useful. All that is useful is simple."
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            • #7
              Matt1984
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 1078

              If you want to do law enforcement join the army as an mp. Just a heads up too, the army is overstrength with MP's right now so you got to really push for it. There is also a huge focus for more specific law enforcement training in the MP corp right now, So the army might be a better choice.
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              • #8
                Stanksbeamen
                Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 232

                I dont understand how you guys say AF SF doesnt do LE/police work?

                My little bro is AF SF and he does do the things that others have said like work the gates checking ID cards or patrol the flight line. He also responds to emergency calls and traffic stops just like normal cops would back home...

                The CCAF degree from the AF would definitely go towards some Criminal justice degree on the outside too. If you dont actually work AF security forces I wouldnt give a whole lot of advice. I'm in the USAF and I see these things first hand while deployed and at home.

                There are a lot of opportunities to do different things in SF. Dog handler/Raven or Fast team etc. Talk to the recruiter, you may or may not be able to do some of these things.

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                • #9
                  Equis
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 2067

                  I was wondering the same thing, but from a little googling, I gathered you have to be active Air force for the SF. Reserve rescue wing like the one in the Bay Area don't have as far as I can tell SF. I have been researching this for myself, and I haven't got to the point of calling a recruiter, not before I research what ASVAB scores to get into the SF. Well that's just me, any active or reserve want to add, or correct. Thanks in advance.
                  Last edited by Equis; 10-20-2012, 2:30 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Lives_In_Fresno
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 818

                    Originally posted by Equis
                    I was wondering the same thing, but from a little googling, I gathered you have to be active Air force for the SF. Reserve rescue wing like the one in the Bay Area don't have as far as I can tell SF. I have been researching this for myself, and I haven't got to the point of calling a recruiter, not before I research what ASVAB scores to get into the SF. Well that's just me, any active or reserve want to add, or correct. Thanks in advance.
                    The testing requirement for security forces isn't very high, TBH. Just go for it, if that is what you want to do.

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                    • #11
                      donny douchebag
                      Internet 'Tough Guy'
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 612

                      When I was in we did both LE and Security. One was cop stuff while the other was patrolling the flight line, working the gates, etc.

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                      • #12
                        Hop Sing
                        Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 456

                        most base have civilian security at gate posts now
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                        • #13
                          Tacit Blue
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 4134

                          Yup they have DoD police that augment enlisted personnel. 083 series police officer, whereas the guards do mainly gates and entry control.
                          "All that is complex is not useful. All that is useful is simple."
                          Mikhail Kalashnikov *...

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                          • #14
                            gunace89
                            Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 426

                            Thanks for the responses guys! If you dont mind me asking another question, how has the reserves effected your civilian careers? I know that its technically against federal law to for an employer to fire you, but ive been hearing rumors that theres been some loopholes being used, anyone heard of this?
                            Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far-Theodore Roosevelt

                            Snake Plissken:Got a Smoke?
                            Malloy:The United States is a non-smoking nation! No smoking, no drugs, no guns, no alcohol, no women-unless your married-no foul language-no red meat!
                            Snake Plissken-(sarcastic)Land of the Free
                            Ironic how fiction slowly becomes reality, isnt it?

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                            • #15
                              Atomic Donut
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 802

                              They have SF positions in the air guard. I said they don't do real police work because the SF at my base tell me they don't. They just check IDs and do perimeter checks or sit on flight line. Most bases do contract out the law enforcement aspect about it. And to me at least, the CCAF degrees are a joke. Also from asking around with the army 31Bs it seems as if the army MPs are doing more infantry work than police work. Yea at the intel tech school a lot of the guys who failed out of school got reclassed to SF or if you went in open general you were almost guerenteed sf

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