help me get a CA Machine gun Permit

[boomer135]

So I am active duty military and own a machine gun (Yes I have the approved form 4)

Help me through the process of a CA machine gun permit, so I can take my MG with me to CA, instead of having to store it in my home state or Reno NV.

[Cpl. Haas]

Not gonna happen...

There are provisions for a Military Assault Weapons Permit that requires approval from your base commander... those only cover semi-auto rifles deemed "assault weapons" by CA DOJ. There is technically the Dangerous Weapons Permit... but that is not granted to individuals... only corporations w/FFLs and extremely good cause (Motion picture prop-houses being the bulk of them).

It's for the children...

[hermosabeach]

Unless I am not aware of a military rule that makes this ok, the word is impossible

There are very very few permits issued in the state. The only people that have them are the hollywood prop companies. Part of the reason why airsoft and CG are becoming the norm for filming in CA

http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2011/04/owning-a-maching-gun-in-califo.html

The link takes you to a lawyers blog and a CA attorney you might wish to contact

[hermosabeach]

This forum http://subguns.com/boards/ has many listings and discussions on fun guns

It might help you find the right place to store your toys while stationed in CA

[snook135]

Yeah I have been reading up a lot and figured I would ask on here. Looks like storage in Reno for the auto and suppressors are gonna be the deal... Sucks total *** to drive 3 hours to just to get some trigger time. but it is what it is!

[A Fatal Err]

Not true. You should be allowed to take into CA any weapons with you as long as they are ok to use in your home state. I've had a few friends do this but I can't remember what forms off the top of my head. Google it

[Novator]

Not true. You should be allowed to take into CA any weapons with you as long as they are ok to use in your home state. I've had a few friends do this but I can't remember what forms off the top of my head. Google it

Absolutely 100% incorrect. If it is illegal in CA, IT IS ILLEGAL IN CA! Machineguns are definitely not allowed for personal possesion. Semi-auto "assault weapons" used to be allowed with an MAWP which is now impossible to get.

[ar15barrels]

Military bases are generally federal land and federal laws trump state laws.
If your base commander and the armorers will sign off on it, I'm pretty sure you can store your personal NFA weapons in the base armory.
Then you should only need to do the nfa interstate travel notification form when you move them into and out of the base.
I don't think you would be able to use them outside of the base within the state of CA.

I doubt your base commander and armorer will sign off on it though.

[stitch_paradox]

Military bases are generally federal land and federal laws trump state laws.
If your base commander and the armorers will sign off on it, I'm pretty sure you can store your personal NFA weapons in the base armory.
Then you should only need to do the nfa interstate travel notification form when you move them into and out of the base.
I don't think you would be able to use them outside of the base within the state of CA.

I doubt your base commander and armorer will sign off on it though.

Are you military? While it might be true that military bases are federal land and etc etc, Base COs still want to adhere to CA laws. I don't know with Army or Airforce bases but with the Navy and USMC your weapon have to be CA Compliant when you register it.

[Matt1984]

Are you military? While it might be true that military bases are federal land and etc etc, Base COs still want to adhere to CA laws. I don't know with Army or Airforce bases but with the Navy and USMC your weapon have to be CA Compliant when you register it.

100% agreed it is the same for an army base, it has to be compliant for that state before it can be registered on post. There is no way a base commander would even entertain this kind of paperwork anyways. Plus even if he did the 30 other people before him who have to review it before it goes up the chain of command will reject it. Leave it at home and don't do anything your rank cant handle.

[HelmandHunter]

boomer, stationed in CamPen?

You can shoot me a call or text and we can talk offline.

Ryan 6122982800

[A Fatal Err]

Absolutely 100% incorrect. If it is illegal in CA, IT IS ILLEGAL IN CA! Machineguns are definitely not allowed for personal possesion. Semi-auto "assault weapons" used to be allowed with an MAWP which is now impossible to get.

^100% Wrong

"Active-duty military members residing out of state and assigned to duty in California may bring personally-owned assault weapons into the state. The military member's residence must be in a state that permits private citizens to own and possess assault weapons, and the firearms must be registered with the California Department of Justice prior to the servicemember's arrival in California by submitting the registration form with a copy of the member's Permanent Change of Station (PCS) orders."

Although for automatic weapons you will need an AWP form to turn in.

[Matt1984]

^100% Wrong

"Active-duty military members residing out of state and assigned to duty in California may bring personally-owned assault weapons into the state. The military member's residence must be in a state that permits private citizens to own and possess assault weapons, and the firearms must be registered with the California Department of Justice prior to the servicemember's arrival in California by submitting the registration form with a opy of the member's Permanent Change of Station (PCS) orders."

Although for automatic weapons you will need an AWP form to turn in.

This hands down is the worst form of a barracks lawyer, if anyone is dumb enough to listen to you on this topic their idiots. You are reading the CA law literally on this. I could do the same for CA CCW law but does it ever work out that way? No commander will sign off on this paper work for the base commander you know why slick? Probably not, and that is because you have never seen the paper work that goes along with this. It requires the commander to assume responsibility of this weapon and place it in their arms room. Ha you think a commander is going to allow that, you think they want to get the *** chewing from a base commander on why he has this paperwork in front of him? No. There might be a CA law but if you stop playing barracks lawyer go to your Base force protection office and look up the post regulation on weapons registration. I bet you it has something stating all personally owned weapons must be legal to own within the state. You probably should do a little more research before giving vague information

[Saym14]

What if it is disassembled and stored in sep containers?

[Novator]

What if it is disassembled and stored in sep containers?

Under federal constuctive possesion laws even the parts required for FA weapons are themselves considered "machine guns." Though I don't know exactly, I can't imagine CA law being less restrictive.

^100% Wrong

"Active-duty military members residing out of state and assigned to duty in California may bring personally-owned assault weapons into the state. The military member's residence must be in a state that permits private citizens to own and possess assault weapons, and the firearms must be registered with the California Department of Justice prior to the servicemember's arrival in California by submitting the registration form with a copy of the member's Permanent Change of Station (PCS) orders."

Again, completely wrong. Machine guns are not even "Assault Weapons" in CA they are "Dangerous Weapons" that require a permit that is impossible to get as a private citizen.

As has already been stated the military provision for personal "Assault Weapons" has been so drastically changed that it is basically impossible to get the permit as no base CO would take responsability for your actions with your weapons.