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How are handguns carried in the .Mil (one in the pipe, etc.)?

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  • #16
    jermzzzzzzz
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 817

    Security Forces we keep one in the pipe, weapon on fire, hammer not cocked in our M9's at home station because of our LE role. M4's have empty chambers with magazines loaded. Downrange everything's ready to rock if your outside the wire. If not, empty chambers for all.
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    • #17
      SGT Loco
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 1765

      Originally posted by Comcam
      There have been quite a few ND's lately, stupid AF trying to be like the Army and have people pull the trigger at the clearing barrel.
      A small part of me is highly amused when people forget to drop the magazine when clearing their weapons

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      SGT Thomas Macpherson KIA 12 OCT 2012
      SFC Ryan Savard KIA 13 OCT 2012
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      • #18
        EchoFourTango
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 636

        Out side the wire we would go condition 1.
        Inside was condition 4.
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        • #19
          Comcam
          Member
          • May 2011
          • 158

          Originally posted by SGT Loco
          A small part of me is highly amused when people forget to drop the magazine when clearing their weapons
          Dude your telling me. I had some DoD civilian I had to clear, holy poop, talk about fiddle $%#$#$ your weapon. This lady was ancient and here she is in the Stan.


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          • #20
            Zimz
            Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 315

            Airforce SOP is one in the chamber, hamer back, safety on. Also no excuses for ND because there signes at every clearing barrell telling you what to do!

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            • #21
              Shortround777
              Junior Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 11

              LMAO, UR supposed to pull the trigger at the clearing barrel, trick is to drop your mag 1st and then rack the slide.

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              • #22
                its mcgavin son
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 2017

                Beyond proximity of our FOB was condition 1; inside of the FOB was condition 3

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                • #23
                  negolien
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 4829

                  Ya know I was just thinking this morning simple answers like the above are ok but we should always be careful after Fort Hood and the Pentagon shootings to remember opsec. We sometimes forget being at home but the ole phrase loose lips sink ships still applies tmi is available sometimes :<(.. dang that intraweb thingy...
                  "Men sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

                  George Orwell

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                  • #24
                    doug-y-doug
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 621

                    On the ship, it was always condition 1 (round in the chamber and safety on) for watchstanders with the M9 and condition 3 (no round in the chamber and safety on) for rovers with the M16.

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                    • #25
                      epilepticninja
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 4166

                      Originally posted by Zimz
                      Airforce SOP is one in the chamber, hamer back, safety on. Also no excuses for ND because there signes at every clearing barrell telling you what to do!
                      That's funny, I never carried the M9 with the hammer back (nor is it designed to be carried like that.) And neither have I seen anyone in the Air Force carrying it like that.
                      Last edited by epilepticninja; 11-01-2011, 9:48 PM.
                      Former political prisoner who escaped on 9-24-23.

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                      • #26
                        Flipper
                        Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 227

                        ^ Think he was back from the days of the 1911. As for the M9, you are dead on.
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                        Originally posted by bwiese
                        More people should have 'toilet guns'.
                        Originally posted by otalps
                        Imagine if he had stuck a 30 rounder in there on accident, God would have killed a kitten.

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                        • #27
                          Comcam
                          Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 158

                          Yup no way you carry the M9 with the hammer back, thats asking for trouble. Flipper is correct that the hammer for the 1911's stay cocked back.

                          I had my M9 on fire and ready to rock and roll and one in the chamber with my musket with it on safe today as I walked to the front of my base to pick someone up from out in town. Don't $%^& around in the wild west.


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                          • #28
                            nyj09
                            Junior Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 65

                            My brother served two terms in Iraq and said that they USED to be able to carry their m9's, but a couple of guys were shooting apples of each-others hands... eventually a marine had a hole in his hand, and they all lost their sidearms.

                            Sorry that I didn't really input to your question, I just thought that story should be told
                            'NUFF SAID

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