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  • stitchnicklas
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2010
    • 7091

    i have a marine corps question..

    my brother-in-law is a sgt and he is up for ssgt boards right now,my sis inlaw thinks that if he does not make ssgt before the 10yr mark he will get kicked-out of the corps,10 yrs is end next year sometime.
    he has 3 iraq tours and has been a forward comm guy,mortar team leader,and is currently training and working a jobs that are supposed to be done by higher ranking guys....
    never had a bad mark on his record..

    question is... is the ssgt by 10yrs B.S. ????????

    sis in law keeps calling wife and crying about it and sis in-law is a low moron that lives in a isolation bubble(metaphorically)
  • #2
    Jason.lee740
    Member
    • May 2010
    • 120

    no, he will be still in.

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    • #3
      xGearbox
      Junior Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 54

      Well, it was 13 years for a while. But 10 years is soon to be a reality. I knew an instructor who could not make SSgt within 13 years and was let go.

      Last edited by xGearbox; 09-21-2011, 3:12 AM.

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      • #4
        The Soup Nazi
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2006
        • 2455

        If his current contract has him serving past 10 years, the Corps will still honor that, but he will be unable to re-enlist or extend unless he has been selected for SSgt. If he has been passed over by the SSgt board twice that usually means he'll be looking at some separation pay in the near future.

        Although the amount of time one has before picking up staff is reduced, A Sgt will have the opportunity to get looked at for promotion before being forced out.

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        • #5
          crashbubba
          Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 457

          Interesting article posted above. When I was a Sgt, it was 10 years. I didnt know they extended it to 13 years for a few years. Nice to see they give you a shot at the board before they force you out. Back in the 90's it was pretty common for the 03 field to be closed for SNCO for years. Saw some guys forced out without ever seeing a board.
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          • #6
            Clownpuncher
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 1176

            Policy that is out and currently in force for Sgt's is as follows:

            High year tenure for Sgt's used to be 13 years, it is now 10 with some stipulations.

            1: If your current contract takes you past 10 years and you have not been passed over for SSgt twice, you can continue to serve to the end of your contract. (possibly longer, see #3)

            2. If you get your second pass for SSgt and are over 10, you will be separated either 7 months after the board results (separated May 1) or you will be separated at your EAS, whichever is LATER.

            3. If you have never had a promotion opportunity for SSgt (ie never got a look) you can extend 1 year at a time past your 10 year high year tenure until you get a look. If you pick up you are good, if you are passed you will be forced out even though it would be your first pass.


            So, based on what you wrote, your brother in law gets his first look this year, if he gets passed this year he can continue because he isn't at 10 years yet. If he hits his 10 year mark at the end of next year he will get another look. If he is passed over again next year then he would be able to either get out at his EAS or he would be able to extend to 7 months beyond the board results (may of 2013).
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            • #7
              BajaJames83
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2011
              • 6034

              I fall into this as well. If he does get "seperated" he will get seperations pay. He will need to submit for reenlistment and be denied due to the maradmin then get can submit for seperations.
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              • #8
                Clownpuncher
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 1176

                Originally posted by jhkutterer
                I fall into this as well. If he does get "seperated" he will get seperations pay. He will need to submit for reenlistment and be denied due to the maradmin then get can submit for seperations.
                Actually, due to the policy you don't need to submit for re-enlistment. If you fall into this policy they know you have to go and they know you will get seps pay, no need in wasting everyones time submitting a package you know will get rejected.
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                • #9
                  BajaJames83
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 6034

                  I was misinformed by my career planner then but that works for me either way. Friday is the release of the list.... So I will see. I've been planning on getting out any way so this gives a little more incentive....
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                  • #10
                    Clownpuncher
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 1176

                    Originally posted by jhkutterer
                    I was misinformed by my career planner then but that works for me either way. Friday is the release of the list.... So I will see. I've been planning on getting out any way so this gives a little more incentive....
                    Planning on getting out? Well, then murphy's law dictates you will get selected.
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                    • #11
                      BajaJames83
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                      • Jun 2011
                      • 6034

                      Hopefully not!
                      Then I would have to do my dam 20 years!
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                      • #12
                        chris
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                        • Apr 2006
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                        This is not only the Marines it will be service wide. With the drawdown and budget cuts this is only the beginning.
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                        • #13
                          Dark Mod
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 4284

                          Yeah that sounds about right. Kinda sucks because different MOS's have different promotion requirements. Im sure theres useless MOS's like cook, or admin that need 6 SSgt's a year, but in the 03 field there were very few promotions available for a long time.

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                          • #14
                            steelrain82
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 3683

                            Originally posted by Clownpuncher
                            Planning on getting out? Well, then murphy's law dictates you will get selected.
                            it has nothing to do with murphy's law, its green weenie law

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                            • #15
                              Spartan Tactical
                              Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 103

                              What your referring to is more so a Navy thing now, if you are not promoted to the next rank within a certain amount of years you are discharged due to "Higher Tenure". However when they do that they cut you quite a big check as a "getting out perk" as a E-5 in the Navy I think its like 45k before taxes?
                              Though 10 years for a marine to pick up e-6 seems kind of along time, usually if your good to go your chain will get you there but it really varies by MOS tho some have higher cutting scores than others.

                              But like I said the practice your asking about is very very common in the Navy, they are booting them out left and right for it.

                              I just don't know if its trickled down to the Corps yet.



                              Originally posted by stitchnicklas
                              my brother-in-law is a sgt and he is up for ssgt boards right now,my sis inlaw thinks that if he does not make ssgt before the 10yr mark he will get kicked-out of the corps,10 yrs is end next year sometime.
                              he has 3 iraq tours and has been a forward comm guy,mortar team leader,and is currently training and working a jobs that are supposed to be done by higher ranking guys....
                              never had a bad mark on his record..

                              question is... is the ssgt by 10yrs B.S. ????????

                              sis in law keeps calling wife and crying about it and sis in-law is a low moron that lives in a isolation bubble(metaphorically)
                              Last edited by Spartan Tactical; 09-21-2011, 12:59 PM.

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