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  • skanless
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 4334

    Whats the difference between Cavalry scouts and Infantry?

    I really want to know what the difference is between these MOS. Also is Airborne only for Infantry? I'm not sure how all this works. Thanks.
    Last edited by skanless; 09-18-2011, 12:38 AM.
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    Originally posted by ElDiabloRobotico
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    matticus
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 65

    Infantry
    Best MOS in the world. Infantrymen are soldiers who are specifically trained for the role of fighting on foot to engage the enemy face to face and have historically borne the brunt of the casualties of combat in wars. As the oldest branch of combat arms, they are the backbone of armies. Assists in the performance of reconnaissance operations. Employs, fires, and recovers anti-personnel and anti-tank mines. Locates and neutralizes mines. Operates, mounts/dismounts, zeros, and engages targets using night vision sight. Operates and maintains communications equipment and operates in a radio net. Operates in a NBC contaminated area. Constructs field expedient firing aids for infantry weapons. Performs as a member of a fire team during a movement to contact, reconnaissance, and security, an attack, defense, situational training exercises and all infantry dismounted battle drills. Processes prisoners of war and captured documents.

    Cav Scout
    The Cavalry Scout is the commander's eyes and ears on the battlefield. When information about the enemy is needed, they call on the Scouts. Cavalry Scouts engage the enemy with anti-armor weapons and scout vehicles in the field, track and report enemy movement and activities, and will direct the employment of various weapon systems onto the enemy.

    Duties performed by Soldiers in this MOS include:

    Performs duties as crewmember, operates, and performs operator maintenance on scout vehicles. Armored Airborne Reconnaissance Vehicle, and Cavalry Fighting Vehicle, crew-served weapons, and communications equipment. Loads, clears, and fires individual and crew-served weapons. Operates and performs operator maintenance on wheeled vehicles. Assists in the recovery of wheeled and tracked vehicles. Secures, prepares, and stows ammunition on scout vehicles. Performs mounted and dismounted navigation. Serves as member of observation and listening post. Gathers and reports information on terrain features and enemy strength, disposition and equipment. Applies principles of except and evasion. Collects data for the classification of routes, fords, tunnels, and bridges. Performs dismounted patrols Employs principles of cover and concealment and camouflage. Assists with construction of light field fortifications, laying and removal of mines, and emplacing demolitions. Performs dismounted patrols. Requests and adjusts indirect fire.

    Difference
    Scout = Mainly RECON
    Infantry = Mainly Ground Pounder

    now... in reality overall it's pretty much the same. My troop has 2 plt of Infantry and 2 plt of Scouts

    The scouts do LRS/RSTA missions, we do more door kicking, anti armor, and simpler RECON, but overall we do the same thing. We're considered Recon Infantry, which makes us like a scout asset.

    I hate to say it, and as much ***** i give the scouts, we do the same thing. We work together, and we have 11b's with scout plt's and 19d's with infantry platoons.

    But, if you're a scout in the Army you're more then likely going to be a BN or BDE asset, where as infantry you have a wider range of opportunities and jobs you can perform.

    Hope that helps man


    Airborne
    as for airborne, it's gay. straight up gay. paratroopers think they're so awesome cause they jump out of planes. but airborne tactics are outdated and useless. we will never see a d-day type operation again, and flak guns will tear the living hell into any paratrooper no matter how much they think they're a BAMF. Airborne is open to all MOS's. "Airborne slots" are opened to selected mos's (jump duty). All it is, is a gay little badge people who have nothing else like to brag about. Air Assault is a way more much needed skill set then airborne. anybody can PLF and put their feet and knees together as a static line rips them out a plane, not everybody can configure sling loads for AA missions. that's my .02 cents
    Last edited by matticus; 09-18-2011, 8:40 AM.

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    • #3
      mcisniper
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 532

      Calvary rides.

      Infantry walks.

      Every other job is to support the infantry. They may say different but with out boot on the ground and the grunts holding that crappy piece of dirt no one else has a reason to be there; you cant win a war on air power alone. You have to put boot on the deck to secure the AO.
      Last edited by mcisniper; 09-18-2011, 8:57 AM. Reason: For got something.
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      • #4
        strangerdude
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 1762

        Well according to my friend who had both jobs, "if you ain't calv you ain't **it" Scouts are elite I guess , I've never served just want to throw that in there.

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        • #5
          Uriah02
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 3149

          Matticus has a good post. I would like to add in, depending on the unit what you were supposed to do and actually do might be very different things. Case in point, one of my soldiers, was a Cav Scout. We were in an Apache unit, I was a desk riding power point ranger (also known as an analyst). Due to the powers that reside in HR, he was assigned to my office. He ended up serving his entire 4 years in that office (deployment included) and never once got to do the job he signed up for. It is a bit of an extreme example, but it can happen.

          Oh I forgot to mention, in this war it doesn't matter if you are Cav Scout, Infantry, Artillery, or whatever. There are those that do route clearance and those that don't. Those are the two differences that matter.
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          • #6
            Mr.Caketown
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            • Jan 2011
            • 7362

            Cav is better , but not as good as 68Whiskeys
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            • #7
              Agmundr
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 43

              Matticus gave pretty much the exact same description that I was going to give when I saw the thread title. I always suggest Infantry to those who want to do combat arms but haven't decided yet because it's easier to get into Ranger Battalion if you decide that you want to go the Spec Ops route.

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              • #8
                goathead
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 3601

                it seem if your combat arms in these wars you do alittle of everything

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                • #9
                  mk3mitch
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 707

                  Matticus pretty much nailed it. I'm a Scout and our troop has both Scouts and Infantry guys. All do the same missions on deployments.

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                  • #10
                    skanless
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 4334

                    Originally posted by matticus
                    Infantry
                    Best MOS in the world. Infantrymen are soldiers who are specifically trained for the role of fighting on foot to engage the enemy face to face and have historically borne the brunt of the casualties of combat in wars. As the oldest branch of combat arms, they are the backbone of armies. Assists in the performance of reconnaissance operations. Employs, fires, and recovers anti-personnel and anti-tank mines. Locates and neutralizes mines. Operates, mounts/dismounts, zeros, and engages targets using night vision sight. Operates and maintains communications equipment and operates in a radio net. Operates in a NBC contaminated area. Constructs field expedient firing aids for infantry weapons. Performs as a member of a fire team during a movement to contact, reconnaissance, and security, an attack, defense, situational training exercises and all infantry dismounted battle drills. Processes prisoners of war and captured documents.

                    Cav Scout
                    The Cavalry Scout is the commander's eyes and ears on the battlefield. When information about the enemy is needed, they call on the Scouts. Cavalry Scouts engage the enemy with anti-armor weapons and scout vehicles in the field, track and report enemy movement and activities, and will direct the employment of various weapon systems onto the enemy.

                    Duties performed by Soldiers in this MOS include:

                    Performs duties as crewmember, operates, and performs operator maintenance on scout vehicles. Armored Airborne Reconnaissance Vehicle, and Cavalry Fighting Vehicle, crew-served weapons, and communications equipment. Loads, clears, and fires individual and crew-served weapons. Operates and performs operator maintenance on wheeled vehicles. Assists in the recovery of wheeled and tracked vehicles. Secures, prepares, and stows ammunition on scout vehicles. Performs mounted and dismounted navigation. Serves as member of observation and listening post. Gathers and reports information on terrain features and enemy strength, disposition and equipment. Applies principles of except and evasion. Collects data for the classification of routes, fords, tunnels, and bridges. Performs dismounted patrols Employs principles of cover and concealment and camouflage. Assists with construction of light field fortifications, laying and removal of mines, and emplacing demolitions. Performs dismounted patrols. Requests and adjusts indirect fire.

                    Difference
                    Scout = Mainly RECON
                    Infantry = Mainly Ground Pounder

                    now... in reality overall it's pretty much the same. My troop has 2 plt of Infantry and 2 plt of Scouts

                    The scouts do LRS/RSTA missions, we do more door kicking, anti armor, and simpler RECON, but overall we do the same thing. We're considered Recon Infantry, which makes us like a scout asset.

                    I hate to say it, and as much ***** i give the scouts, we do the same thing. We work together, and we have 11b's with scout plt's and 19d's with infantry platoons.

                    But, if you're a scout in the Army you're more then likely going to be a BN or BDE asset, where as infantry you have a wider range of opportunities and jobs you can perform.

                    Hope that helps man


                    Airborne
                    as for airborne, it's gay. straight up gay. paratroopers think they're so awesome cause they jump out of planes. but airborne tactics are outdated and useless. we will never see a d-day type operation again, and flak guns will tear the living hell into any paratrooper no matter how much they think they're a BAMF. Airborne is open to all MOS's. "Airborne slots" are opened to selected mos's (jump duty). All it is, is a gay little badge people who have nothing else like to brag about. Air Assault is a way more much needed skill set then airborne. anybody can PLF and put their feet and knees together as a static line rips them out a plane, not everybody can configure sling loads for AA missions. that's my .02 cents
                    Thank you so much so this information.
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                    Originally posted by ElDiabloRobotico
                    heheh, I'm getting double teamed by Harmoniums and Richie

                    /airtight!

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                    • #11
                      11b_vet
                      Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 211

                      jumping out of planes is so fun. infantry is the second best MOS deployed. first is anything in the 18 series.

                      in garrison infantry sucks so hard.

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                      • #12
                        jdberger
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                        Scouts have ice chests.

                        Tanker Scouts use the engine like an oven. Mmmm. Roasted Chicken.
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                        • #13
                          matticus
                          Junior Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 65

                          Yea 11b has far more opportunities. Best chance for Sniper, RSLC, Ranger, SFAS, CAG, Sapper, Heavy Weapons School, Master Gunner School, and every other school there is for combat arms.

                          If you wanna be in Ranger Bat, Special Forces or CAG you have to do 11 series OSUT, regardless if you were a BAMF 92A who killed 300 dudes in Combat.

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                          • #14
                            Lost
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                            • May 2009
                            • 171

                            Originally posted by strangerdude
                            Well according to my friend who had both jobs, "if you ain't calv you ain't **it" Scouts are elite I guess , I've never served just want to throw that in there.
                            And here is the biggest difference. 19Ds THINK they are better than everyone else.

                            SCOUTS OUT!!!111!!1!1!


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                            • #15
                              Army GI
                              Veteran Member
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4284

                              Originally posted by 11b_vet
                              jumping out of planes is so fun. infantry is the second best MOS deployed. first is anything in the 18 series.

                              in garrison infantry sucks so hard.
                              How is garrison life like for 11B?
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