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Really? I was under the same impression he was the first time I read it. I only understood your actual meaning after reading this comment and going back to read what you wrote.
That's a good question. Why are you starting static? The OP was just posting racks and you joined the thread with your high and mighty post about how you don't care about ribbons and medals and you get to meet a lot of MOH recipients.
Actually, I didn't think you were bragging about it, but when you try and flip the attitude around when there wasn't any, I'll show you how easy it is to make your posts seem like there was attitude in them.
I am not going to respond to the rest of this post or any other previous posts because obviously something happened in your previous life to cause you to get on your soapbox.
I am enjoying this thread without you polluting it. Why? Each rack being posted is causing me to do some research and learn something new. Am I going to retain this knowledge and use it out in the real world? I very seriously doubt it. But at least I am enjoying learning a little bit here.
One last point I would like to make. Obviously you've served. Thank you for your sacrifice. That said, you should have grown a thicker skin than what you appear to be showing in this thread. I am not trying to attack you, I am merely trying to point out that this is all in fun and it is easy to misinterpret the written word. I will assume it has been a bad day, week, whatever. I know I get a little short tempered this time of year, every year.
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What happened is I've seen good and decent people who served their country with honor and distinction be called liars by people who had no clue what they were talking about. One of the most disgraceful things I've ever witnessed. Might as well spit on their uniform.
I was trying to point out that while this might seem amusing in a theoretical sense, it's really not in real life. Odds are you're wrong and you are insulting a veteran. His test is a good example of how something you think is a good measuring stick is seriously flawed. Most people didn't spend a lot of time memorizing the ribbons for their own branch of service, much less all the other services.
99% of the time the justification people use to "challenge" somebody about their military service is just as flawed. One example I've seen posted here on Calguns in the past was the placement of patches on BDUs. This one let to screaming match in public, where a Calguns member accused a guy in uniform of being a fraud. And from his description of the even, it was totally wrong about.
During my enlistment the placement of name tapes and patches changed several times. First all patches except for a velcro flight patch flush against the pocket were banned. Then the flight patch was moved up 1/4 inch. Then stripes on the sleeves were allowed again but the flight patch remained. Then name tapes replaced the flight patch, except flush against the pocket, then unit and squadron patches were authorized again. Oh, and while all that was happening the reserves and guard units all did it their own unique thing was as well. It was confusing as hell. I'm sure it's changed at least 100 more times in the 15 years since I left active duty. So patch placement alone is not a good indicator of someone's legitimacy. Every service does it a little different, some units do it different from others, and it is constantly changing.
People take enormous pride in their military service. It doesn't matter if they were a cook or Navy Seal. It matters to them. Having somebody call them a liar about that, is beyond hurtful.
Call it preaching from a soapbox all you want. I'm in the right. You don't get to disrespect a serviceman just to amuse yourself. Not in my presence. None of the people I know who served would find it funny either. Not if they saw it go down.
There are so few posers out there. They are sad, desperate people. Trying to root them out is NOT worth the risk of dishonoring a veteran.Last edited by tacticalcity; 09-09-2011, 6:22 PM.Comment
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If I read something into your post that was not there I apologize. Past couple of days I've run into people who have really been getting my and other members goat just for giggles. So my fuze is a little short on that front. Aparently too short.Originally posted by Killer Bee
Plus this topic rubs me the wrong way. I have so much respect for those who serve, especially those who served in combat, that it just kills me that people think it's fun to question their service. I personally am really proud to have been priveldged to wear the uniform. Some of the proudest moments of life were a result of joining the military. So if it means that much to me, I can only imagine what it means to somebody who fought, lost buddies, and possibly lost parts of himself. That's worth speaking up for. That's worth arguing about.
If you have ever stood there and watched a serviceman be disrespected like this, and seen how vial and ugly people get in their accusations, it would make your skin crawl too.Last edited by tacticalcity; 09-09-2011, 6:27 PM.Comment
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Brother, I know what you are saying and I don't disagree with it. Obviously we are looking at this "exercise" in two different lights. I look at it as a puzzle. You see it as a path leading to the insulting of service members.
Am I going to take this into the real world? No way. Do I call people out? Not unless it is blatantly obvious, and I haven't run across anyone that has caused me to question them yet. I give people the benefit of the doubt for the reasons you stated.
That said...
You found another WWII ribbon to throw on there.
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I have no problem with the puzzle part of it. It is a fun challenge and you stumped me. You didn't actually call anybody a poser, so you have nothing to be ashamed of or sorry for. I wasn't ranting at you...just ranting against the whole "spot the poser" fad that has crept up. In my day, this would never have accured to people. Not unless they were wearing an Army top with Navy bottoms or some damn goofy thing. Even then would have just assumed he was mentally handicap and put a quarter in his cup so he could get some soup.Brother, I know what you are saying and I don't disagree with it. Obviously we are looking at this "exercise" in two different lights. I look at it as a puzzle. You see it as a path leading to the insulting of service members.
Am I going to take this into the real world? No way. Do I call people out? Not unless it is blatantly obvious, and I haven't run across anyone that has caused me to question them yet. I give people the benefit of the doubt for the reasons you stated.
That said...
You found another WWII ribbon to throw on there.Last edited by tacticalcity; 09-09-2011, 6:39 PM.Comment
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I can't tell what is wrong with the racks posted since I wasn't in the Army, nor do I have the interest to look up those ribbons. I got my own neat stack to play with.
Former political prisoner who escaped on 9-24-23.Comment
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The spirit and intent has be dilluted.
fine, this one is legit, any one care to guess who?
Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.Comment
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This is a pretty good rack builder.
However, it is not easy to use.
Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.Comment
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Originally posted by Killer BeeBefore there was Polymer there was Accuracy.Comment
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