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So a coworker of mine says she uses her CAC card to get military discounts, she is not military or a dependent and her only affiliation military wise is that she is a NAF cashier. This recently has come to our attention at work and im not sure if she is violating any law or AF/DoD regulation but everyone including myself feel its a scumbag move. Her kid also works in the same organization and i guess hes been using the BX also. Any laws or regs you guys now of? Thoughts? BTW NAF employees can not use the BX or Commissary but can use any services facility e.g. rod n gun,hobby shop etc.
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You must not have enough to do...Comment
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Is it her picture on the CAC card or does it belong to someone else?Comment
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I have many, rock collecting,wine tasting,scale model trains,stuffed animals and sculpting in chocolate.
Military discounts among other things are a form of appreciation for service to our country. I dont like it when people go around with medals/uniforms they didnt earn or cashing in on something meant for troops. She may not be breaknig any rules and maybe nobody but me and five other people care but i still think its wrong.
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i have no problem with someone working the systemComment
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If she's got the card, why not use it? I get laid off 6 months every year....should I not be able to get Firefighter discounts unless I'm working? Doesn't matter how small her involvement is, she's involved. Perhaps there are others more deserving, but it's not like she's taking away their ability to get a discount too. There is no victim here, you need to get over it.sigpic
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From the sounds of your post she is NOT in the military. She is a civilan that works on base as a cashier and has a civilan CAC ID for base access purposes. If she is using it to get discounts at private buisinesses it is wrong but also its the businesses fault for not knowing what the difference is between a military CAC ID and a civilan CAC ID.Last edited by flying2275; 03-05-2011, 9:34 AM.Comment
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Report Fraud, Waste, and Abuse......hahahahahasigpic United States Air Force Security ForcesComment
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discounts are given b/c military are paid crap and are broke.
Next time you call a hotel as for "military rate" and it'll be higher than retail. Then clarify that you are not on orders and this is personal and you want the military "discount". THEN magically it happens to be lower than retail.
When I was in VA and would stay off base on weekends I got it a lot.
"are you on orders or is this personal?"Comment
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IF she is not eligible then rat her out to the fraud, waste and abuse hotline. Make sure that YOU have your ducks in a row when you do, like proof that she is doing it and not just hearsay, even from her. She will just denie it unless there is positive, physical proof of her actions.
That said, I agree whole heartedly with your opinion. I am retired military and others in this thread who tell you to get a hobby, or get a life, or its ok to work the system have never been in the military or are working the system themselves and contribute to the problems with our country. I commend you for trying to stand up for what's right, moral and ethical. We need more folks like you.
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You can call down to the Pass & ID office to find out if what she is doing is in violation of protocol. If so, report her to the DOD ethics hotline. Civilians abusing their CAC need to go. If they're willing to compromise their ethics on something this little, what else might they compromise on, say for a hefty bribe?
If it turns out that what she is doing is perfectly fine, then you've done your due diligence and your conscience is clear.Last edited by taloft; 03-05-2011, 3:30 PM..
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