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  • #16
    maggie06
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 665

    "Let's play tic-tac-toe"

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    • #17
      Mustard
      Senior Member
      • May 2013
      • 563

      Originally posted by rero360
      No kidding, when I was at Ft Sill back in 2012 for JFO school, I would see the basic trainees marching around, and there would always be a gaggle of them in the back on crutches. I asked one of the Drill Sergeants why that was (helped being the same rank at the time), and I was told that they were almost all stress fractures due to poor diet and a sedentary childhood.
      At one point about 25% of our class was on crutches

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      • #18
        Mullins
        Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 312

        We didn't have any of this at FT. Benning in 2013 but my platoon had 4 people get stress fractures, 2 with broken bones, and 2 recycles for "other" medical issues.

        Civilian vitamin D and calcium supplements would be cheaper than buying "night night bars". Wait a while and the urge for them will fade.

        Edit: We all got rather bad upper respiratory infections though...
        Last edited by Mullins; 12-01-2020, 8:31 AM.

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        • #19
          Bobby Ricigliano
          Mit Gott und Mauser
          CGN Contributor
          • Feb 2011
          • 17439

          I have never heard of "night night bars." But in Army BCT in the 90's, I regularly feasted on cherry cough drops and tap water. I also got about 30 extra seconds of sleep most nights by sleeping on top of my made rack.

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          • #20
            kwest10
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 617

            KILL!
            All we got was a canteen of tap water and a hygiene inspection

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            • #21
              norcalAF
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Jul 2012
              • 1654

              Originally posted by tnlrat37
              In the Corps All we ever got was Motrin, foot powder and a nice warm cup of STFU!
              That's all we got in AF boot as well.

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              • #22
                norcalAF
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Jul 2012
                • 1654

                Originally posted by rero360
                No kidding, when I was at Ft Sill back in 2012 for JFO school, I would see the basic trainees marching around, and there would always be a gaggle of them in the back on crutches. I asked one of the Drill Sergeants why that was (helped being the same rank at the time), and I was told that they were almost all stress fractures due to poor diet and a sedentary childhood.

                When I went through Basic and AIT at Benning in 2000, I only remember two people from the entire company on crutches at one point or another, myself from jacking up my heel coming off the top rack and stiff leg landing on it, and another guy who was bitten in the knee by a spider (possibly black widow) which caused a staff infection.

                As to the bars, we never got anything like that; heck, whenever I got stuck on KP duty, I'd volunteer for pots and pans so I could stuff my face with food coming off the line. I would also get force-fed when we were out in the field; myself and a few others were super skinny, so the drill sergeants would load our plates up with food and then make us come back for seconds. Now it's my turn to try and fatten up the scrawny kids when I serve food out in the field.
                In the AF we called them the broken flight.

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                • #23
                  Bobby Ricigliano
                  Mit Gott und Mauser
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 17439

                  This is giving me a lot of flashbacks to the daily horrors of basic training. Early on in "red phase" we were filing out of the DFAC as another company was filing in. As we were dumping our trays, I was at the end of the line.

                  There were some other Drill Sergeants and DFAC staff standing by the exit talking. I got delayed for about 15 seconds while I tried to figure out how to go around them without getting yelled at. I finally got outside and realized with pure terror that my company had already marched off.

                  Since it was early in BCT, I hadn't even fully got my bearings on the place. I did not even know what direction to go, because every single building looks the EFFING SAME. If there is one thing you never want to do in BCT is be wandering around by yourself.

                  I recalled the advice of my recruiter: "The Drill Sergeants are there to help you. If you get in trouble or don't know what to do or where to go, you ask them."

                  A different DS exited the DFAC ahead of his company and I approached him. I stood at Parade Rest and said "Drill Ser--" Of course he immediately went aggro.

                  "Who are you Private??"

                  I,uh

                  "You some kinda Lone Wolf?"

                  Erggh, derp, ughh

                  "Go away hero!"

                  I felt my breakfast coming up and started to yak on the grass as I range walked away. When I went around the other side of the DFAC, I realized my company's barracks were immediately adjacent to where I was standing and barfing.

                  When all hope was lost, I saw familiar faces and I was able to jump back in with them as they were filing out and forming up. None of my own Drill Sergeants ever noticed my absence. The entire company got smoked right after that, for no particular reason, but I was so happy to be out of my predicament that I didn't even mind getting scuffed up for the next 20-30 minutes with that post vomit sour cottonmouth stink.

                  hooah

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                  • #24
                    JR18
                    Member
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 464

                    Originally posted by rero360
                    No kidding, when I was at Ft Sill back in 2012 for JFO school, I would see the basic trainees marching around, and there would always be a gaggle of them in the back on crutches. I asked one of the Drill Sergeants why that was (helped being the same rank at the time), and I was told that they were almost all stress fractures due to poor diet and a sedentary childhood.

                    When I went through Basic and AIT at Benning in 2000, I only remember two people from the entire company on crutches at one point or another, myself from jacking up my heel coming off the top rack and stiff leg landing on it, and another guy who was bitten in the knee by a spider (possibly black widow) which caused a staff infection.

                    As to the bars, we never got anything like that; heck, whenever I got stuck on KP duty, I'd volunteer for pots and pans so I could stuff my face with food coming off the line. I would also get force-fed when we were out in the field; myself and a few others were super skinny, so the drill sergeants would load our plates up with food and then make us come back for seconds. Now it's my turn to try and fatten up the scrawny kids when I serve food out in the field.
                    At one point in AIT there were only 10-15 of us doing PT every morning. The other 30 were broken or finding ways to get there profile extended.

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                    • #25
                      Bobby Ricigliano
                      Mit Gott und Mauser
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 17439

                      Originally posted by JR18
                      At one point in AIT there were only 10-15 of us doing PT every morning. The other 30 were broken or finding ways to get there profile extended.
                      AIT Drill Sergeants have it made. Ours just made sure we got to school, smoked us, and did inspections.

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                      • #26
                        stormvet
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 12681

                        Originally posted by JR18
                        At one point in AIT there were only 10-15 of us doing PT every morning. The other 30 were broken or finding ways to get there profile extended.
                        Im a warmonger baby, I got blood in my eyes and I'm looking at you.

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                        • #27
                          Bobby Ricigliano
                          Mit Gott und Mauser
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 17439

                          Imagine if the private sector functioned like the military. Feeling sick? Got an ouchie? Boo hoo. Go to sick call for a Tylenol and they will send you right back to work.

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                          • #28
                            Kyle1886
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 4147

                            I guess things really changed for the sick or injured in Boot. If you had either, you left the unit, and it was considered bad time. When or if recovered in a couple of days, you returned to your original unit.

                            Sprains/broken bones/or anything that prevented one from engaging in training you reassigned (set back) to another unit to make up the bad time.

                            I was in platoon 282 MCRD and no protein bars...damn that was a long time ago. DI's were Wapp, Saldavar, and Jones. (Funny can't remember the grand kids names, the DI's; Oh yeah.

                            Respectfully
                            Kyle
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                            • #29
                              tokuno
                              Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 278

                              I recommend Costco's D3 cholecalciferol:
                              Kirkland D3

                              I take two mini-gels a night, and haven't had a sniffle in about 10 years. Literally. Previously always had minimum 1 cold - and often 2 - every year. Then I looked up the SFBay Area on a sun exposure chart (low), got a D-level test during a blood draw (low), and began supplementing. Night and Day difference. This with 4 school-aged kids bringing home every nasty bug on the planet, especially after Winter & Summer breaks, when their peers would travel back to India, Japan, China, Korea, etc.

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                              • #30
                                stormvet
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 12681

                                Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
                                Imagine if the private sector functioned like the military. Feeling sick? Got an ouchie? Boo hoo. Go to sick call for a Tylenol and they will send you right back to work.
                                Im a warmonger baby, I got blood in my eyes and I'm looking at you.

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