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  • #16
    joeyriv
    Member
    • May 2008
    • 336

    I agree with Maddog, in that the advantages of a belt-fed weapon cannot be overlooked. Imagine how many freakin' mags the gunner/A-gunner/ other FT members will have to carry.
    Then there's always the FPF scenario.
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    • #17
      MustangO4
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2006
      • 1138

      I just want to see the flood of surplus SAW parts kits and demilled recievers hit the market! Come to papa!!!!

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      • #18
        Manong0369
        Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 193

        Originally posted by joeyriv
        I agree with Maddog, in that the advantages of a belt-fed weapon cannot be overlooked. Imagine how many freakin' mags the gunner/A-gunner/ other FT members will have to carry.
        Then there's always the FPF scenario.
        I love the sound of "talking guns" as we rushed towards the objective. It was definitely an assuring thing. According to Leatherneck magazine, April issue '09, "the Marine rifle company will retain six SAWs as organizational equipment, a Commander's discretionary weapon." I believe that the new thinking is that they would use the 240G for support and keep the squad intact. When I was a team leader, it sucked when we had two man teams taking the objective while my automatic rifleman/assistant team leader was used for support. I think that we would still use belt fed weapons, like the 240G, for suppressive fire. Of course there would be big changes in infantry doctrine and you know how we grunts love change.
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        • #19
          Maddog5150
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2006
          • 10526

          The equivilent to the SAW would be a 200 round MAG. Beta mags hardly feed without malfuntion half the time on a semi, I wouldnt trust it on a full auto firearm.
          Even with a higher capacity mag a belt fed has a greater advantage.
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          • #20
            mattman
            Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 484

            Some officer sitting on his high horse probably just whats to crap all over whatever his predecessor doctrine established so he can leave his mark.

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            • #21
              MustangO4
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2006
              • 1138

              Originally posted by mattman
              Some officer sitting on his high horse probably just whats to crap all over whatever his predecessor doctrine established so he can leave his mark.
              Scumbags!

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              • #22
                kermit315
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2007
                • 5928

                Like I said, I think the above options arent much different from the standard M16A4. If you are going to replace the saw, at least replace it with something in the same class.

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                • #23
                  kalguns
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 607

                  Any one of the Colts
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                  "It is better to have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it." ---Clarence Worley ...
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                  • #24
                    Flogger23m
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 1215

                    Why not convert them to M249 paras? They are shorter and should be a lot lighter as well.



                    To further save weight, issue the soft pack 100 round belts instead of the 200 round boxes. Maybe they can make a soft pack 200 round one as well.

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                    • #25
                      chris
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 19452

                      the Marines may have a better chance of change weapons systems. those of us in the Army are stuck with what we have.
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                      • #26
                        AYEAREFIFTEEN
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 1112

                        Originally posted by Flogger23m
                        Why not convert them to M249 paras? They are shorter and should be a lot lighter as well.



                        To further save weight, issue the soft pack 100 round belts instead of the 200 round boxes. Maybe they can make a soft pack 200 round one as well.

                        ^
                        This

                        FN also makes a slightly lighter mod without the magazine well. Pair that with the 100 round nutsacks and it should be a much lighter weapon.

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                        • #27
                          l_Z_l
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 518

                          is it just me or does it not make sense to switch a belt fed weapon w/ a magazine fed weapon?

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                          • #28
                            Requiem
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 1725

                            Originally posted by l_Z_l
                            is it just me or does it not make sense to switch a belt fed weapon w/ a magazine fed weapon?
                            Beta Mags?
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                            • #29
                              HotRails
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2008
                              • 1491

                              Originally posted by MustangO3
                              I just want to see the flood of surplus SAW parts kits and demilled recievers hit the market! Come to papa!!!!

                              Oooooh yeah SAW build party!!

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                              • #30
                                l_Z_l
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 518

                                Originally posted by Requiem
                                Beta Mags?
                                weren't there reliability issues the Beta Mags, especially full atuo...maybe i don't have all the info

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