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  • #31
    Matt C
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2006
    • 7128

    Originally posted by resistor
    Definitely.

    I'm calling ********. The guy doesnt know if he did or didnt deploy? He says he has no other record in his 201 file or online record indicating he ever went, and starts going on about top secret high level PSD missions back and forth to the states? Add to that his "legal" problems and it polishes up like a turd...

    He opened the can himself, and wonders why he gets the thrid degree.
    LOL, nothing top secret about those CONUS PSD missions, although we did get some secret briefings related to threats first. I worked with secret service on POTUS missions as well. You think I'm lying? I don't give a ****. Post your record and I can call you a liar too. I left the country. Does that automatically make it a deployment, the moment you are off US soil? I don't know. I don't care either. But I guess it's fun to call people a liar on the internets. And wtf do my "legal" problems have to do anything?
    Last edited by Matt C; 03-30-2009, 10:13 AM.
    I do not provide legal services or practice law (yet).

    The troublemaker formerly known as Blackwater OPS.

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    • #32
      Matt C
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2006
      • 7128

      Aw crap now I feel like an ahole. There IS a problem with my sig pic (actually two), although I don't think any has actually mentioned it here. There are TWO GWOT ribbons, which is my mistake. Obviously I only have one. I'm removing my sig pic until I get a chance to fix it.
      I do not provide legal services or practice law (yet).

      The troublemaker formerly known as Blackwater OPS.

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      • #33
        resistor
        Member
        • Dec 2003
        • 279

        Hahaha. For soemone who doesnt give a ****, you certainly arent acting like it. You say that you dont care what I or others think, yet there you go again dropping your "record" in a public forum. I'm not the one who opened up to the world on the "internets" about where I've been or what I've done. I dont have the need or the inclination the way you seem to.

        I called ******** on your story because it needs clarification, which you've so far refused to provide. Your refusal to answer questions posted by cavtooper and others raises questions of credibility, and when it comes to false or exaggerated claims about one's military record, well...

        I guess I'm of the opinion that you believe none of what you hear and half of what you see.

        A perfect example is a soldier in my unit, goes into a bunker thats off limits in the middle of the night because he's "bored". Climbing back out, he falls and breaks his leg badly. Gets medevac'd to Germany. Calls his family and tells them he was "wounded" during a raid, kicking in doors and all that. Well, his family wants more info so they call the unit. You can imainge what teh outcome was.

        Imagine what that idiot is going to tell joe schmo public who would NEVER know the difference? By the time that story gets told, he was awarded the silver star.

        If youre going to open up publicly, be prepared to be asked questions and corroborate your claims.
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        • #34
          OIF_VET
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 639

          "Blackwater" OPS....let me guess, you worked for thoes guys also?

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          • #35
            dwa
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 2452

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            • #36
              bones138
              Member
              • May 2007
              • 364

              Wow, you guys are brutal.

              I had no idea that you could put stars on your Iraqi Campaign Medal. Do I get 1 star on it if I deployed 3 times(in different phases?)? The GWOTEM counts for 1 deployment right?

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              • #37
                docsmileyface
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2006
                • 1644

                Originally posted by bones138
                Wow, you guys are brutal.

                I had no idea that you could put stars on your Iraqi Campaign Medal. Do I get 1 star on it if I deployed 3 times(in different phases?)? The GWOTEM counts for 1 deployment right?
                I think the stars are based on the time frame you were in country, right? Like there is three different periods and if two of your tours fell in that period, you'd only get one star for it.

                At least thats how it was described to me.
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                • #38
                  CavTrooper
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 5944

                  Theres no stars authorized for either of the GWOT medals AFAIK.

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                  • #39
                    MrLogan
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 5143

                    Originally posted by CavTrooper
                    Theres no stars authorized for either of the GWOT medals AFAIK.
                    You would be correct.
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                    • #40
                      chris
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 19452

                      Originally posted by CavTrooper
                      Theres no stars authorized for either of the GWOT medals AFAIK.
                      there are stars for the Iraq campaign medal and they are specific to the dates one would be in Iraq. it was in an Army Times article sometime last year. as i'am authorized two for the election of dec 2005 and some other crap in 2006. not sure what it was though.

                      Originally posted by MrLogan
                      You would be correct.
                      as to my knowledge there is no campaign stars for the GWOTEM or GWOTSM.
                      things can change for medals all the time.
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                      • #41
                        chris
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 19452

                        Originally posted by JerryM
                        Yeah, you can still get the GWOTEM (Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal) overseas.

                        There was a bruhaha about who qualified for it and how.

                        For example:

                        You go to Iraq on your first GWOT deployment, you can either get the GWOTEM or the ICM (Iraq Campaign Medal) (last time I was briefed, it is your choice and you arrange that with the nice civilian ladies finalizing your DD-214 at demob station).

                        You cannot get both from one mobilization (with the exception of units that are training in Kuwait for over a month and move into Iraq, and other extreme exceptions).

                        You go to Iraq again, then you can get either the GWOTEM or the ICM.

                        You go to Afghanistan, you can get the AFCM (Afghanistan Campaign Medal). If you are ISAF, you also qualify for the NATO Medal.

                        All the above awards are only awarded once. With the ICM and AFCM, you can add bronze stars per campaign.

                        The GWOTSM (Global War on Terrorism Service Medal) is awarded to active duty personnel and reservists who are activated for a consecutive period of 30 days (except for ADT).

                        I might be wrong, so if anybody sees any discrepancies, please correct me.
                        you can get the GWOT and ICM while in Iraq. that is what is on my 214 and i had no idea that it changed. so much crap changes its hard to keep up with it.
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                        • #42
                          JerryM
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 785

                          Yeah Chris,

                          You might fall in one of them special timeframes/situations.

                          We had to call Human Resources because everybody was adamant that we did not qualify for both, until we showed them we did.

                          Oh well.

                          And the above posters are correct. As of today, no stars for GWOTSM and GWOTEM.

                          You should see my official photo. I look like a Banana Republican General. LOL.
                          Last edited by JerryM; 04-01-2009, 4:59 AM. Reason: wrong medals

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                          • #43
                            chris
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 19452

                            Originally posted by JerryM
                            Yeah Chris,

                            You might fall in one of them special timeframes/situations.

                            We had to call Human Resources because everybody was adamant that we did not qualify for both, until we showed them we did.

                            Oh well.

                            And the above posters are correct. As of today, no stars for GWOTSM and GWOTEM.

                            You should see my official photo. I look like a Banana Republican General. LOL.
                            LMAO. i have not seen so many things change so quickly as far as the Army goes. this is really interesting times we are in.
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                            • #44
                              Wayneard3413
                              Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 292

                              My interest got piqued when I read Romania was on the GWOTEM list... Then I remembered that whole "combat" thing... Only interesting thing that went down there was a Romak zapping himself on an industrial size AC unit and trying to out run the packs of dogs during PT haha

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                              • #45
                                goathead
                                Veteran Member
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 3601

                                wow it's crazy up in this post
                                Last edited by goathead; 04-04-2009, 9:40 PM.

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