moving back from out of state

[cylryu]

I was out of state and ready to come back to Cali by flight , I have about 4 -5 handguns they are all not on roster, what is the procedure for the check in and what is the step to register it in ca?

[Snoopy47]

There is a form on the DOJ page where you fill out and register all them in one batch for $19.

No threaded barrels, and no 11+ round magazines.

[Sunday]

Why would any one move back to the shirthole state.

[jcourson]

Why would any one move back to the shirthole state.

This is the military sub-forum. We don't generally have much choice.

[RickD427]

So long as California cannot consider you as a resident during your absence, things are actually quite simple. You simply import the weapons into the state. No need to notify the state until 60 days after you are discharged from active duty.

A couple of caveats however:

1) The weapons must be in a California-legal configuration. They don't have to be on the roster. The most likely problems are going to be threaded barrels on a semi-auto (California defines them as Assault Weapons) and weapons like the Taurus Judge (California defines them as SBS's).

2) No Large Capacity magazines.

If you kept California residency during your absence, you're screwed. In that case, your handguns must be shipped to a California FFL who releases them to you in the state. They have to be on the roster. Bringing them in yourself is a felony.

[cylryu]

So long as California cannot consider you as a resident during your absence, things are actually quite simple. You simply import the weapons into the state. No need to notify the state until 60 days after you are discharged from active duty.

A couple of caveats however:

1) The weapons must be in a California-legal configuration. They don't have to be on the roster. The most likely problems are going to be threaded barrels on a semi-auto (California defines them as Assault Weapons) and weapons like the Taurus Judge (California defines them as SBS's).

2) No Large Capacity magazines.

If you kept California residency during your absence, you're screwed. In that case, your handguns must be shipped to a California FFL who releases them to you in the state. They have to be on the roster. Bringing them in yourself is a felony.

thanks very infomative

[cylryu]

So long as California cannot consider you as a resident during your absence, things are actually quite simple. You simply import the weapons into the state. No need to notify the state until 60 days after you are discharged from active duty.

A couple of caveats however:

1) The weapons must be in a California-legal configuration. They don't have to be on the roster. The most likely problems are going to be threaded barrels on a semi-auto (California defines them as Assault Weapons) and weapons like the Taurus Judge (California defines them as SBS's).

2) No Large Capacity magazines.

If you kept California residency during your absence, you're screwed. In that case, your handguns must be shipped to a California FFL who releases them to you in the state. They have to be on the roster. Bringing them in yourself is a felony.

the thing is I have pcs order and able to buy it oos, how come I am not able to bring them back myself?

[cylryu]

There is a form on the DOJ page where you fill out and register all them in one batch for $19.

No threaded barrels, and no 11+ round magazines.

can you give me the link?

[RickD427]

the thing is I have pcs order and able to buy it oos, how come I am not able to bring them back myself?

So long as California does not consider you a resident while you're gone, you can purchase handguns in the state of your current PCS orders, and then bring them to California when you execute your PCS orders here, just so long as they're in a California-legal configuration and without regard to the roster.

The problem comes if California is able to consider you as a resident. California defines "Residency" very differently than do the feds. And if you're active military, California defines it two different ways for you. Federal law defines you as a resident of the state where you are assigned on PCS orders (refer to 18 USC 921). California's basic definition of residency, for the application of firearms laws, is that you keep a home in the state and have an intent to return when absent (refer to Penal Code section 17000(b)(1)). This would be the case where a military member claims their parent's home as their residence and typically keeps that address on their driver's license and as their military home of record. For the purpose of determining your responsibility for completing the "New Resident" report of firearms, California determines you to be a resident, for that purpose, upon your discharge from the armed forces in this state (refer to Penal Code section 17000(b)(2).

The reason that you can't bring in any firearms yourself, in the case that California considers you a resident is contained in Penal Code section 27585. That section requires a California resident, who obtains firearms in a different state, to ship those firearms to an FFL dealer for transfer within the state. This makes the "safe-handgun" roster requirements apply. Violation involving a handgun is a felony (refer to Penal Code section 27590 for the penalty provisions).

[gater]

Moving back to CALI

Does your branch have a base in a FREE STATE. Try to go to another state bro.Thanks for your service!!

[VeteranDad]

So long as California cannot consider you as a resident during your absence, things are actually quite simple. You simply import the weapons into the state. No need to notify the state until 60 days after you are discharged from active duty.

A couple of caveats however:

1) The weapons must be in a California-legal configuration. They don't have to be on the roster. The most likely problems are going to be threaded barrels on a semi-auto (California defines them as Assault Weapons) and weapons like the Taurus Judge (California defines them as SBS's).

2) No Large Capacity magazines.

If you kept California residency during your absence, you're screwed. In that case, your handguns must be shipped to a California FFL who releases them to you in the state. They have to be on the roster. Bringing them in yourself is a felony.

So in your opinion would a featureless AR-15 not need to be registered if in CA while AD?

[RickD427]

So in your opinion would a featureless AR-15 not need to be registered if in CA while AD?

Yes, assuming that it was personally imported by a military member on AD who is not a California resident.