California State Guard - formerly the CSMR

[nevets]

Wonder what will become of the naval maritime component?.

Hmmmm

Me too. I heard rumors that they already had or were going to disband the maritime unit but who knows. And if they do, what are they going to do with the ship and other boats?

[Nacho_Eater]

Thanks for the replies to my question.

I'm a former Army National Guardsman and I'm not surprised one bit at politics entering into the equation here. The National Guard has always been a political animal (not a good thing, IMHO).

I guess we'll have to see how things turn out.

[CrazyCobraManTim]

TAG's guidance is effectively on point to what their mission is (to be fair). Provide support for the Army and Air NG units. And all states are awaiting solid updates (revised or updated directions) from HQ NGB.

Those units who previously stood alone (so to speak) will get rolled under a CAARNG or CARNG unit who's mission includes METL of Blaze, Shield and Maritime.

Would like to think time, donations, training and mutual aid efforts spent on our small fleet is squandered. Lots of people working on it. Time will tell.

Was even a joke about making sure people (everyone) knows the difference between NG and CSG. BDU's could be making a come back.... wink.

[nevets]

TAG's guidance is effectively on point to what their mission is (to be fair). Provide support for the Army and Air NG units. And all states are awaiting solid updates (revised or updated directions) from HQ NGB.

Those units who previously stood alone (so to speak) will get rolled under a CAARNG or CARNG unit who's mission includes METL of Blaze, Shield and Maritime.

Would like to think time, donations, training and mutual aid efforts spent on our small fleet is squandered. Lots of people working on it. Time will tell.

Was even a joke about making sure people (everyone) knows the difference between NG and CSG. BDU's could be making a come back.... wink.

Change is inevitable but I really do hope they hold off on the BDUs although I suppose that would qualify as being distinct from the National Guard. Like you said, time will tell. If they did switch the uniform to that, I wonder how that might affect recruiting and retention?

[CrazyCobraManTim]

Honestly brother - I am unsure.

My sincerer hope is that the NGB, other national agencies and Title 10, 14 and 32 individuals will do what their Oaths require of them in the days and weeks to come.

Otherwise - God's will be Done....

[E Pluribus Unum]

Honestly brother - I am unsure.

My sincerer hope is that the NGB, other national austerities and Title 10, 14 and 32 individuals will do what their Oaths require of them in the days and weeks to come.

Otherwise - God's will be Done....

The CSG has always bitten off it's nose to spite it's face. We can't have the volunteers out performing the paid crew... making everyone look bad... they just want people to show up and carry the water....

BG Sandman has been clear that Maritime's days are numbered... I hope he changes his mind.

[CrazyCobraManTim]

Hmmm... BG Sandman and his staff / subordinate commanders seemed to have stuck to a different story.

SOOO much scuttlebutt ...it's like turning over a porta potty (or 3) next to the swim qual pool. Turds everywhere....

[E Pluribus Unum]

Hmmm... BG Sandman and his staff / subordinate commanders seemed to have stuck to a different story.

SOOO much scuttlebutt ...it's like turning over a porta potty (or 3) next to the swim qual pool. Turds everywhere....

Yes sir. Scuttlebutt is worthless... until it happens. As I say, I hope it's wrong. The state guard portion doesn't have the manpower that the ANG side has... they can't afford the politics. With a company of 12... how can they afford to let good people go and not have recruiting to replace them?

Put aside the politics and put mission first... if everyone had that mentality, it would grow exponentially. It saddens me because the potential is there if they would just endorse it... I digress.

[Usmc0844spare]

Now they're having huge, huge recruiting issues, both of their own making and because the newer generation is being told by their own military parents about the horrors of service.

I didn't have any horrors in the service. I was a "never did s**t" reservist after all.

However, yeah, given our country's track record, since, basically after Korea, of sending our kids off to die for either no good reason, ill-planned /considered reasons, or just shear d**k-wagging, I told my kid he should not join the military, unless it's the USCG.

There has been literally no war since WW2 (except MAYBE Korea) that I would consider worth the life/limb/mental health of my kid.

I mean, I am sure no WW2 Gold Star parent was thinking "yup, proud my son is dead", but I am sure there is a huge difference between them and someone who lost a son or daughter in Afghanistan only to see the crap-show that devolved into at the end.

[Nacho_Eater]

Me too. I heard rumors that they already had or were going to disband the maritime unit but who knows. And if they do, what are they going to do with the ship and other boats?

The USCG Auxiliary would love to have its own boats! Or more of them.

[E Pluribus Unum]

The USCG Auxiliary would love to have its own boats! Or more of them.

Unfortunately, that's not a sworn service. Technically speaking, they are civilians.

[CrazyCobraManTim]

EPU has it right. USCG-Aux are civilian volunteers under DHS. They may get to sometimes do cool stuff (go floating)....but I'm not even sure where they fall under USC Title 14.

The State Guard is one of 3 Title 32 reserve forces available to California, with all it can carry or otherwise imply.

But - if Maritime was stripped of their equipment and mission - there are more than a few entities in California which would / could benefit from the inflatables, John Boats (Rescue One's) and the USCG Motor Life Boat SN #2 - which is fairly well refurbished at this point.

I need to check in and see what's going on.....been SOOO busy at day work for weeks, months and 2 years now. Have 10 days "off" right now - and I've worked 2 of the 3 day @ about 6-10 hours each day. Beat being in Gaza I suppose....

[theunpunisher]

Wow, I got out due to some temporary health issues but was looking to return to Maritime Command. What is going on?

[Supersapper]

I didn't have any horrors in the service. I was a "never did s**t" reservist after all.

However, yeah, given our country's track record, since, basically after Korea, of sending our kids off to die for either no good reason, ill-planned /considered reasons, or just shear d**k-wagging, I told my kid he should not join the military, unless it's the USCG.

There has been literally no war since WW2 (except MAYBE Korea) that I would consider worth the life/limb/mental health of my kid.

I mean, I am sure no WW2 Gold Star parent was thinking "yup, proud my son is dead", but I am sure there is a huge difference between them and someone who lost a son or daughter in Afghanistan only to see the crap-show that devolved into at the end.

Completely agree. I think Korea would qualify and perhaps Desert Storm for the fact that we showcased how Blitzkrieg should be done on a modern battlefield, but otherwise, you are correct on that count. I've been counseling most of the high school kids I teach not to do military service for the next few years...too risky and for nothing, so I told them to either get an education or get a really good skillset for the civilian world. If they want to later and things have cooled down, by all means, but not yet.

[Nacho_Eater]

Looks like the CSG is getting some uniform changes including black name tape and "California" tape with white or silver lettering. Left sleeve will have the CSG or newer bear patch (no federal patches). OCPs will still be used.

US Flag on right sleeve to be replaced with the California state flag <-- this is what disappoints me the most. I was always proud to where any uniform with the US flag on it.

As an aside, the new Coast Guard Auxilary work uniform will now have the US flag on it, just like the new Coast Guard work uniforms.