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  • ckgarside
    Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 126

    Color Deficiency

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    Last edited by ckgarside; 02-25-2020, 12:04 AM. Reason: DELETED
  • #2
    sealocan
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2012
    • 9950

    I wish I could help you out with an answer that you're looking for
    but the only thing that comes to mind is a news story a while ago about the man (who might have been with a law enforcement agency himself.) who is paid to fly around with the police helicopters and look for professionally "camouflaged" illegal grow operations.

    because of his perceived visual color differences, he was able to spot somethings very easily that most people could not ever see.

    good luck and maybe someone else will come in and give you a proper answer.

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    • #3
      CrossedRifles
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 2430

      I'm not sure as well, but I am almost positive it is not an instant-disqualification. It may be for some MOS that require perfect vision.

      There are many things that can be waived with the help of your recruiter. A lot of recruiters will not go the extra mile to help get a waiver for you, but some will. ( Assuming this color deficiency is something that can be / will need to be waived. )

      Again, you're going to need to talk this through with your recruiter, I don't think any of us can help unless they are familiar with it, or themselves are recruiters. (There are a couple army recruiters I've seen on Calguns.)

      Also don't get tricked by your recruiter, research research research.

      Good luck and hope you meet the eye requirements for the MOS you want.

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      • #4
        jcourson
        Member
        • Mar 2014
        • 491

        Unless there is a specific MOS you want, don't sweat it. I have plenty of color blind Marines.
        Originally posted by Ant45
        Plenty of people who don't frequent internet forums are blissfully unaware that their guns suck.
        I don't understand. Is he being forced out for being an ammo-grabbing fascist or for being a failure as an ammo-grabbing fascist?

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        • #5
          Cpl. Haas
          Senior Member
          CGN Contributor
          • Dec 2006
          • 2098

          It'll vary depending on branch... none of them have it as an overall DQ, but few-to-many jobs will be off-limits. In the Navy, any aviation job... from aircrew to airframer... requires normal color vision.



          "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!"

          You can trust me. I'm a arecrooman... aircroomen... airecrewmen... I fly on planes.

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          • #6
            CrossedRifles
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 2430

            Originally posted by ckgarside
            Thats what I was worried about. Bummer. I'm even a good photographer, I had no idea I was "color deficient" until last week.
            It could possibly have been a faulty exam. (Not that I have any idea how these exams are done.) I wouldn't take that as a definite result.

            A majority of MOS out there do not require perfect vision. I would not fret. What MOS did you have in mind?

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            • #7
              msternin
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Jan 2015
              • 881

              Give this a read from an Army SPC: https://forums.goarmy.com/thread/247159

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              • #8
                Kdzimmer
                Junior Member
                • Jan 2015
                • 16

                Have you done a farnsworth d-15 or lantern test? Some individuals are unable to identify the psuedoisochromatic plates (I.e., ishihara) and have normal functional color vision per the previous tests.

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                • #9
                  Mr.Caketown
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 7362

                  oP what branch are you looking at? I was color deficient and ended up getting 68W without a waiver. If not you can always go in and reclass later . Color deficiency doesn't really weigh in for re enlistment
                  WTB:
                  1)AR15 Aero Precision Skeletonized Lower
                  2)S&W 686 6in barrel ...686 No dash through 686-4
                  3) Saltworks M5 upper/lower set

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                  • #10
                    Ferrum
                    Janitors Mop
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 4431

                    When I enlisted, I was told that I was partially color blind (MEPS said I failed dot test). Just didn't seem right to me, so I talked to my recruiter, went to my eye doctor and said that they were full of it. I got my eye doctor to write a letter, subsequently ended up getting the MEPS doctor's decision reversed.

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                    • #11
                      E__WOK
                      Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 480

                      Originally posted by jcourson
                      Unless there is a specific MOS you want, don't sweat it. I have plenty of color blind Marines.
                      I had a color blind Motor T driver in my unit.

                      At least he was smart enough to figure out the lowest light means go and the highest light to stop.
                      Feedback

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                      • #12
                        mikenewgun87
                        In Memoriam
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 7732

                        Color Deficiency?

                        I thought you were talking about being pale for a second haha...

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                        • #13
                          bcsquare
                          Member
                          • May 2013
                          • 397

                          Originally posted by ckgarside
                          Thanks for all the advise guys, I definitely don't feel as if my colorblindness (or lack thereof) will pose any severe limitation. I seriously believe that I can pass just about any other test besides the ishihara, so I will talk to my doctor and see about taking an alternative.

                          I never knew I was colorblind and I still don't really believe it based on one BS plate test. I have been working with electronics involving all types of color coded components and cables for many years without any trouble.

                          I think I'm going to get myself another test.
                          I have a red/green color deficiency as did one of my buddies in the Marine Corps. It's not that we can't see red and green; it's just hard to tell the different shades of them.

                          But to answer your question, talk to a recruiter. Every branch has their own standards. When I enlisted in 2003, they used to have a massive binder of all the MOS' and the requirements. I remember them having to reference it when I failed Farnsworth plate test.

                          I was a 3521 Automotive Mechanic and my buddy was a wrecker operator so it's not like there's no place for you; just limited options. We were both deployed as 0311's anyways since we belonged to a victor battation.

                          Get retested but otherwise best of luck in whatever you choose to do.
                          Last edited by bcsquare; 02-18-2015, 10:31 AM. Reason: Typo's galore!

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                          • #14
                            Kdzimmer
                            Junior Member
                            • Jan 2015
                            • 16

                            Some data concerning glasses or contacts to "correct" vision deficiencies-

                            Although the lenses do allow one to pass certain color vision tests and help in discriminating between specific colors by introducing brightness artifacts, they do not correct the color vision deficiency. Basically, the colors which are confused with each other move from the red-green color axis to the blue-yellow color axis so that there no net improvement in overall color discrimination.
                            In addition, the lenses are usually equivalent to sunglasses in terms of overall light transmittance and therefore cannot be worn at night especially when driving.

                            If they want to pursue this further, I would recommend the following:
                            They have to provide an analysis of the light transmittance data to verify that the lens meet the ANSI requirements of sunglasses and general purpose tinted lenses (these are the same requirements that specified for industrial protective lenses)
                            This information must include
                            Luminous Transmittance for daylight D65
                            Luminous Transmittance for the red traffic signal light
                            Luminous Transmittance for the green traffic signal light
                            Luminous Transmittance for the yellow traffic signal light
                            Minimum Transmittance value between 475 nm and 650 nm

                            Chromaticity coordinates (color coordinates) for daylight D65
                            Chromaticity coordinates (color coordinates) for the green traffic light
                            Chromaticity coordinates (color coordinates) for the yellow traffic light

                            If they meet the ANSI requirements (including transmittance for daylight D65 greater than 70%), then you should retest his color vision with the
                            HRR screening test and Farnsworth Munsell 100 hue test ( a passing performance on the 100 hue would be an error score of less than 100.

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