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  • NorCalBusa
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 1497

    CCW- record confidentiality

    San Francisco Sheriff announced the first CCW was approved. 15 minutes later, a reporter had the name, address and work location of the person it was for- and published all that information. News agencies are known to ask for entire databases of CCW holders under formal requests- some get it, some good Sheriff push back and don't give it.

    I think it's time for CRPA to play a little "offense" and work the legislative room for a specific new law that makes this personal information confidential, protects law organizations from releasing it- and the individuals releasing it a felon. It puts people's lives, their families, friends and co-workers lives at enormous risk and there is no putting that Jenie back in the bottle.

    Whatever the media's data need may be, they can be satisfied with anonymized aggregates of information- no need for specific individuals.

    Story here; https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/...n-17752254.php

    Snippet as its paywall;

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    XDJYo
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    • Apr 2012
    • 6363

    Bastidges.


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      XDJYo
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      • Apr 2012
      • 6363

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      • #4
        Jeepergeo
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 3506

        It would be a shame if the reporter were Doxx'd.
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        • #5
          NorCalBusa
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2006
          • 1497

          I added the story link to post #1
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          • #6
            lastinline
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2014
            • 2364

            Again, this is what happens when government is allowed to require a permission slip to exercise a constitutional right. The police department, the state, and all those skin flute players in the media up there have no issue with destroying the lives of those who dare to even attempt to defend themselves.

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            • #7
              squeeze
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 1313

              I live in SF. This divulgence of personal information to the public is exactly why I will not be applying for a CCW. Even if they were handing them out with a 10 minute wait. No way!

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              • #8
                9Cal_OC
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2019
                • 6673

                Originally posted by squeeze
                I live in SF. This divulgence of personal information to the public is exactly why I will not be applying for a CCW. Even if they were handing them out with a 10 minute wait. No way!
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                • #9
                  Foothills
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 918

                  Originally posted by Jeepergeo
                  It would be a shame if the reporter were Doxx'd.
                  At a minimum the reporter should be asked if they intend to doxx domestic violence victims who apply for a permit and publish their addresses so their abusers can find then again.
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                  • #10
                    rrr70
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 1832

                    About a month ago Alameda released to the Bay Area News personal info of people why APPLIED for CCW.
                    "The police cannot protect the citizen at this stage of our development, and they cannot even protect themselves in many cases. It is up to the private citizen to protect himself and his family, and this is not only acceptable, but mandatory" Jeff Cooper

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                    • #11
                      XDJYo
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 6363

                      Originally posted by squeeze
                      I live in SF. This divulgence of personal information to the public is exactly why I will not be applying for a CCW. Even if they were handing them out with a 10 minute wait. No way!
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                      • #12
                        CSACANNONEER
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                        • Dec 2006
                        • 44093

                        Guys, this is PUBLIC INFORMATION. Sure, I hate the fact that my info is out there but, I also like the fact that we have transparency in our government. Without this info being public info, we would have never been able to prove how corrupt certain IAs have been. So, would you rather have transparency or corrupt Sheriff's and Police Chiefs who only issue to friends, family and political doners?
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                          XDJYo
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 6363

                          Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                          Guys, this is PUBLIC INFORMATION. Sure, I hate the fact that my info is out there but, I also like the fact that we have transparency in our government. Without this info being public info, we would have never been able to prove how corrupt certain IAs have been. So, would you rather have transparency or corrupt Sheriff's and Police Chiefs who only issue to friends, family and political doners?
                          I'd rather have government that doesn't need to be coerced to obey the law/constitution at the expense of the private citizens it is supposed to serve.
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                          • #14
                            NorCalBusa
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 1497

                            Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                            Guys, this is PUBLIC INFORMATION. Sure, I hate the fact that my info is out there but, I also like the fact that we have transparency in our government. Without this info being public info, we would have never been able to prove how corrupt certain IAs have been. So, would you rather have transparency or corrupt Sheriff's and Police Chiefs who only issue to friends, family and political doners?
                            That's my point. We need to go offense on this and get a law passed that takes permit holders out of public access.
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                            • #15
                              CSACANNONEER
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 44093

                              Originally posted by NorCalBusa
                              That's my point. We need to go offense on this and get a law passed that takes permit holders out of public access.
                              So, you would prefer a system where the IA will issue to friends, family and political doners without the transparency which ended up catching several IAs in recent years? Yea, again, I don't like my personal info out there but, just like any freedom, it comes with costs.
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