CRPA - To Support or Not Support POLL

[Mayor McRifle]

[Kestryll]

While this is an amazingly silly question I'll answer it.

YES, you very much should support the CRPA, especially if you enjoyed Freedom Week.

Why do I say that, because I know very well what is going on with the CRPA given that I sit on the Board of Directors and am Chairman of the Communications and Technology Committee.

The CRPA is committed to fighting for our 2A rights, ALL aspects of our 2A rights and that means having a full time lobbyist in Sacramento, bringing forth thought our litigation to stop or overturn bad laws (not just rushing to be 'first' with questionable lawsuits to enhance fund raising or making big noise on social media), engaging in outreach to bring new people in to the shooting sports, working with pro 2A LE to give a louder voice in Sacramento and work on better CCW procedures and more.

Yes, the CRPA had some issues several years ago, and in those years all of the personnel involved have been removed, the structure of both the Board and the Org has been revamped and the CRPA today is nothing like the CRPA of several years ago.

Back then I was removed from the Board because I and a few other stood against the policies and personnel that were dragging the CRPA down.
When I was asked to return to the Board after the housecleaning it took a lot to convince me it was worth it, I'm still on the Board because I am convinced that the changes have made a better, stronger and more committed CRPA.

So now it's my turn to ask questions.

Are you a CRPA member? If not what are you doing to further 2A rights?

Like Calguns the CRPA is not a singular individual or Board it is the sum of it's members and while the Board can and does do a lot it can not do it all. The members need to be involved, engaged and take action themselves.

Unless you're just looking to pay $35 for a membership expecting to just sit back and hope your yearly dues pay for someone else to fix everything for you and then complain when that doesn't work.

There are plenty of '2A orgs' who will take your money and promise you exactly that, it doesn't matter if they can not and do not fulfill that promise because they already have your money.


ETA: OP looking at your signature you are an NRA Life Member.
You are aware that the CRPA is the Official NRA State Affiliate for California correct?
Nearly all of the NRA efforts in California are run through the CRPA and our CRPA lobbyist works hand in hand in Sacramento with the NRA State lobbyist every day.

[Kestryll]

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1444054

Issues like this. And no response from CRPA.

Actually there have been numerous answers to that over the years, the problem is people didn't hear what they wanted to hear so they ignored the answers.

[ShaneB]

A life member of the NRA asking if it’s a good idea to support the CRPA, too funny.

[tenemae]

I donated another $50 this week. YES- absolutely support the CRPA. They're the last soldier standing on the 2A battlefield in CA.

[bdeditch]

I joined the CRPA. It is the FPC that I question.

Exactly

[bdeditch]

While this is an amazingly silly question I'll answer it.

YES, you very much should support the CRPA, especially if you enjoyed Freedom Week.

Why do I say that, because I know very well what is going on with the CRPA given that I sit on the Board of Directors and am Chairman of the Communications and Technology Committee.

The CRPA is committed to fighting for our 2A rights, ALL aspects of our 2A rights and that means having a full time lobbyist in Sacramento, bringing forth thought our litigation to stop or overturn bad laws (not just rushing to be 'first' with questionable lawsuits to enhance fund raising or making big noise on social media), engaging in outreach to bring new people in to the shooting sports, working with pro 2A LE to give a louder voice in Sacramento and work on better CCW procedures and more.

Yes, the CRPA had some issues several years ago, and in those years all of the personnel involved have been removed, the structure of both the Board and the Org has been revamped and the CRPA today is nothing like the CRPA of several years ago.

Back then I was removed from the Board because I and a few other stood against the policies and personnel that were dragging the CRPA down.
When I was asked to return to the Board after the housecleaning it took a lot to convince me it was worth it, I'm still on the Board because I am convinced that the changes have made a better, stronger and more committed CRPA.

So now it's my turn to ask questions.

Are you a CRPA member? If not what are you doing to further 2A rights?

Like Calguns the CRPA is not a singular individual or Board it is the sum of it's members and while the Board can and does do a lot it can not do it all. The members need to be involved, engaged and take action themselves.

Unless you're just looking to pay $35 for a membership expecting to just sit back and hope your yearly dues pay for someone else to fix everything for you and then complain when that doesn't work.

There are plenty of '2A orgs' who will take your money and promise you exactly that, it doesn't matter if they can not and do not fulfill that promise because they already have your money.


ETA: OP looking at your signature you are an NRA Life Member.
You are aware that the CRPA is the Official NRA State Affiliate for California correct?
Nearly all of the NRA efforts in California are run through the CRPA and our CRPA lobbyist works hand in hand in Sacramento with the NRA State lobbyist every day.

I am a recruiter for the CRPA, you would be surprised how many people have no idea that the CRPA even exists. We need more members now.

[socal147]

To all,
I sincerely apologize for my own ignorance on the subject.

Patrick

[Mayor McRifle]

To all,
I sincerely apologize for my own ignorance on the subject.

Patrick

[warbird]

One learns by asking questions and that is how you can turn an enemy into an ally. Most times you can't but it is worth the try. And what harm does it hurt to leave it open for a while longer? Just ignore it or let the mods deal with it.

[The Gleam]

How one can be a California gun owner, see the results the CRPA have procured since Chuck Michel joined the fray, and not also be a CRPA member is beyond me.

Some 15 years ago or so, yes, there was some justifiable criticism buoyed about due to what appeared to be a lack of open-voting of the Board and those in charge resting on long-ago laurels. Not so any more.

The current CRPA is doing a fine job, and one of the last prongs we still have left on the trident, now that so many CA gun owners are becoming closeted dissidents of the 2nd Amendment calling for "common sense gun safety laws" or simply apathetic to their 2nd Amendment Rights, which only reinforces those that wish to abolish them.

The CRPA is out there in the REAL WORLD fighting against that, every, damned, day.

[pacrat]

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1444054

Issues like this. And no response from CRPA.

Actually there have been numerous answers to that over the years, the problem is people didn't hear what they wanted to hear so they ignored the answers.

OP, take note of Kestryl's response. I am lifer in both NRA/CRPA, I don't always agree with everything they do. And as a lifer, feel entitled to question those decisions. Yet I also see that they do far more good for 2A than any other orgs.

Go to the link that you yourself provided. And read the entire thread. paying attention to the last post. Here is a relevant excerpt;

If you, me, and every other 2A loving citizen who supports NRA/CRPA. Allow our support for the 2A to narrow to the point of only focusing on issues that personally affect us, our jobs, or the county/city that we work and live in. We are doing a grave disservice to the overall 2A cause we hold dear.

[bruss01]

I have a limited budget for charitable contributions but I am signed up to auto-donate via paycheck deduction to 5 organizations each and every month. One of which is the Second Amendment Foundation and another of which is CRPA.

My paltry $10 every month doesn't make nor break either of these orgs, nor does it cause me the kind of pain that makes me wince and put my hand protectively over my wallet. But it ends up being $120 a year to each of them. Now imagine everybody on this board doing the same. It wouldn't break anyone's budget, nor cause any spousal arguments. And it would mean thousands of dollars of monthly support for an org most of us would say we enthusiastically support.... yet, many don't... WHY? I am sure there are many answers to that question... but nearly none of them are good excuses. The biggest one I am sure is simple apathy. With all that is going on we need them representing us before the legislature and especially IN COURT more than ever. These cases take time (years in most cases) and cost MONEY.

As Special K says, CRPA had some issues years back, basically they had become an Elmer Fudd support group who didn't seem to mind any gun law that didn't impact them owning a double-barrel duck hunting shotgun but those folks are gone and it's a brand new day at the CRPA. Today they are in the game and playing for keeps, representing the 2A rights of ALL Californians, not just the Fuddites.

If ANYONE is doing work worthy of a CA gun owner's support, THEY are.

[pacrat]

Today they are in the game and playing for keeps, representing the 2A rights of ALL Californians, not just the Fuddites.

If ANYONE is doing work worthy of a CA gun owner's support, THEY are.

^^^AMEN BRO^^^

[vino68]

I am a recruiter for the CRPA, you would be surprised how many people have no idea that the CRPA even exists. We need more members now.

I do not see flyers or any advertisement at my LGS for the CRPA. With the exception of Turner's. I see flyers and info at some ranges.
What type of community events do you have a presence at or around the SoCal area?