GA expands gun rights...

[spyde12]

Sorry if it's a duplicate. Interesting thing considering that our rights are slowly being stripped.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/23/georgia-governor-to-sign-bill-expanding-gun-rights/

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[wireless]

Colin Goddard, who survived the 2007 campus shooting at Virginia Tech, told Georgia Public Broadcasting he's alarmed by a provision that waives criminal prosecution of felons who use illegal firearms in the act of self-defense.

Apparently felons have lost the right to life.


CA is getting worse along with the eight other hold out states. There was a blip in Colorado that got two democrats recalled, one retired, and they will probably lose the senate in 2014. The fact is in most other states firearm laws are getting less strict.

-WA past a SBR bill

-Ten states now allow teachers under certain circumstances to carry firearms post sandy hook

-Louisiana passed an amendment or law, can't remember which, that said all 2A cases must require strict scrutiny

-Missouri passed a constitutional amendment aprox 70% to 30% strengthening missouri gun laws and allowing open carry (it's being challenged at the supreme court, but unlikely to be struck down)

- Numerous states have made CCW records confidential

-Alabama has increased places people can carry firearms- along with Arkansas, Kansas, Montana, North Carolina, North Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, South Dakota, and Wyoming

- Alabama amends state constitution to require strict scrutiny in 2A cases and rewords their 2A right in state constitution

-Several states have passed laws stating they will not follow federal gun laws or work with federal government to keep records of purchases/transfers

-Montana and Florida passed laws saying health providers cannot ask about owning a firearm

- Many states now allow people to hunt with suppressors

There are many other new laws strengthening 2A rights. Many of the gun control legislation bills enacted post sandy hook strengthens NICS reporting of prohibited people, which I'd hardly consider strong gun control bills. There hasn't been a single federal gun control law passed since 94'. We are making progress in court cases, although who knows wtf will happen.

It's all doom and gloom in CA and it feels like things are getting worse, but all around us they are getting better. If the Republicans take the senate in 2014 they will have the chance to actually put national reciprocity to a vote since Harry Reid is playing his games. Obama probably won't pass it unless they attach it to some federal spending laws, and hopefully the Republicans and pro-2A democrats can do that.

If we stay persistent and keep fighting by voting, donating, taking people to the range, or other grass roots activities we will win this thing.

[rootuser]

Apparently felons have lost the right to life.


CA is getting worse along with the eight other hold out states. There was a blip in Colorado that got two democrats recalled, one retired, and they will probably lose the senate in 2014. The fact is in most other states, firearm laws are getting less strict.

-WA past a SBR bill

-Ten states now allow teachers under certain circumstances to carry firearms post sandy hook

-Louisiana passed an amendment or law, can't remember which, that said all 2A cases must require strict scrutiny

-Missouri passed a constitutional amendment aprox 70% to 30% strengthening missouri gun laws and allowing open carry (it's being challenged at the supreme court, but unlikely to be struck down)

- Numerous states have made CCW records confidential

-Alabama has increased places people can carry firearms- along with Arkansas, Kansas, Montana, North Carolina, North Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, South Dakota, and Wyoming

- Alabama amends state constitution to require strict scrutiny in 2A cases and rewords their 2A right in state constitution

-Several states have passed laws stating they will not follow federal gun laws or work with federal government to keep records of purchases/transfers

-Montana and Florida passed laws saying health providers cannot ask about owning a firearm

- Many states now allow people to hunt with suppressors

There are many other new laws strengthening 2A rights. Many of the gun control legislation bills enacted post sandy hook strengthens NICS reporting of prohibited people, which I'd hardly consider strong gun control bills. There hasn't been a single federal gun control law passed since 94'. We are making progress in court cases, although who knows wtf will happen.

It's all doom and gloom in CA and it feels like things are getting worse, but all around us they are getting better. If the Republicans take the senate in 2014 they will have the chance to actually put national reciprocity to a vote since Harry Reid is playing his games. Obama probably won't pass it unless they attach it some federal spending laws, and hopefully the Republicans and pro-2A democrats can do that.

If we stay persistent and keep fighting by voting, donating, taking people to the range, or other grass roots activities we will win this thing.

Good post. +1

[Rumline]

Colin Goddard, who survived the 2007 campus shooting at Virginia Tech, told Georgia Public Broadcasting he's alarmed by a provision that waives criminal prosecution of felons who use illegal firearms in the act of self-defense.

Apparently felons have lost the right to life.

I don't know how I feel about that. Clearly everybody should have the right to justified self-defense; I'm more worried about the potential PR fallout from this. Heaven forbid some rapist decides to carry, gets into a tussle, and invokes stand your ground. If a jury finds he acted in self defense, and felon-in-possession charges are dismissed, the media is going to eat it up.

[wireless]

What reason would felon in possession of a firearm be dismissed? What about the felon who didn't pay his taxes, got a felony DUI 20 years ago, the 18 year old who gets caught growing one marijuana plant in a state park, or a drunk idiot who lit a trash can on fire and is arrested for arson. Do those people lose the right to use an illegal firearm when someone attacks them? What if one of those non-violent felons is a woman and she uses an illegal firearm to fight off a rapist?

Any person, no matter who they are, has the right to defend their life in an unprovoked attack. I wouldn't lose sleep over a rapist getting stabbed to death in a robbery, but that doesn't mean he should lose his right to protect his own life. A person's character does not determine a basic right to self dense. There is no moral scale that makes someone "good enough" to protect themselves. Regardless of what I hope happens to the rapist who is denfending his life, the morality police don't get to decide how good someone needs to be in order to protect oneselff from another actively violent individual.

Alan Gottlieb is a convicted felon. Washington have him a path to restore his 2A rights unlike california. Should Alan also be barred from self defense because he is a convicted felon? Is he any different than the same felon in a state that refuses to reinstate 2A rights?

The right to denfend one's life needs to be treated just like the right to free speech. The Westboro Baptist Church or even Nazis have the right to peacefully march and assemble. I wish they were all dead, but when we start deciding who is entitled to God given rights and who isn't, it becomes a very slippery slope.

[Rumline]

What reason would felon in possession of a firearm be dismissed?

a provision that waives criminal prosecution of felons who use illegal firearms in the act of self-defense.

Self defense is an affirmative defense. You don't get to just claim it and it kicks in automatically. The accused would be charged with homicide/manslaughter/whatever and also felon in possession (along with whatever else the DA thought up). He goes to trial, presents self-defense argument, jury buys the story, in which case the charge of "felon in possession" is dismissed. Without this new law he would have beat the murder charge but still gone to jail for possessing an illegal firearm.

You seem to be addressing your comments in favor of the right of self defense to me. Perhaps you didn't understand that my concern is in regards to the public relations problem we may find ourselves in if a case like this hits the news media. I'd venture a guess that most people are not as supportive of self defense as we are, especially when it comes to a convicted felon. It is my assertion that many people regard felons as being a small step above pedophiles and would not have sympathy for the plight of said felon.

[Victor Cachat]

Good!
When do they get the right to shoot SWAT for breaking in after the guy that stole your truck tells the cops you are selling drugs?

[ja308]

From the article

"Democrats resisted the proposal, although they conceded it would pass in the GOP-dominated House of Representatives. They argued that allowing guns in more places will not make society safer and may lead to more deaths."

Being a democrat in Georgia must be a thankless job

[mshill]

From the article

"Democrats resisted the proposal, although they conceded it would pass in the GOP-dominated House of Representatives. They argued that allowing guns in more places will not make society safer and may lead to more deaths."

Being a democrat in Georgia must be a thankless job

No different than being a republican in CA.