Proof that guns are dangerous and...

[garciav58]

Thanks for posting. Interesting that the family wants stricter gun laws considering that their son is the criminal with the more than likely illegal gun. Scum

[Lead Waster]

Thanks for posting. Interesting that the family wants stricter gun laws considering that their son is the criminal with the more than likely illegal gun. Scum

Well in a way I'm guessing the family i thinking "If he didn't have a gun, he wouldn't have robbed that place and been killed"

[71MUSTY]

If concealed carry were more widely available, criminals would think twice about conducting their criminal activities. Instead of just one CCW holder, armed robbers might not burst in in the first place if they thought half the people in a place were ready to fight back. Instead, armed robbers just view everyone as victims.

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Plus I wonder what other criminal activities this nice boy and his friends were into. Oh wait he just found the gun outside and was trying to return it...

[garciav58]

Well in a way I'm guessing the family i thinking "If he didn't have a gun, he wouldn't have robbed that place and been killed"

Ya tht could be part of what they're thinking.

Considering criminals still gets guns, that reasoning would just reiterate the ignorance of the gun grabbers.

[CSACANNONEER]

I agree that there should be stricter gun laws. In fact, I propose that there needs to be another gun law requiring constitutional carry in the entire country. also propose another law that would make the parents of little criminal thugs who use a firearm illegally to be financially and morally responsible for the actions of their children. This should also include the parents and their other children being FOREVER barred from collecting any sort of government aid including free health care, welfare, SSI, and even their social security if they actually earned any.

[Mulay El Raisuli]

I agree that there should be stricter gun laws. In fact, I propose that there needs to be another gun law requiring constitutional carry in the entire country. also propose another law that would make the parents of little criminal thugs who use a firearm illegally to be financially and morally responsible for the actions of their children. This should also include the parents and their other children being FOREVER barred from collecting any sort of government aid including free health care, welfare, SSI, and even their social security if they actually earned any.

Isn't this already the case in the PRK? I mean, if a kid steals a bicycle, I can sue his parents. Why couldn't I sue the parents if an underage thug knocks over some joint?


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[coryhenry]

Typical BS. Nobody in the younger generations takes accountability for anything. It is never their fault, and someone else should always pay for their mistakes. Why do you think we had to have a law written just so you could perform emergency CPR on someone and not get sued!

[IVC]

And he might very well lose that civil case. Could have just shot the guy in the leg or fired a warning shot and scared the perps away. Some jurors actually believe that to be a viable option and will find the defendant liable. Happened in a lawsuit I was on and I was simply astounded by the sheer stupidity of some individuals.

I am afraid that in this day and age, based on the number of idiotic incidents I see on a daily basis, the jury will most likely not be of your peers, but composed largely of nincompoops.

The family is looking for money so they are going after the deep pocket. Not that the CCW is rich necessarily, but there's no point in going after a civil judgment against someone who's going to be in jail the next 30 years.

This is where the proper "castle doctrine" kicks in.

If there is no *criminal* case, the family cannot go after civil liability in a *civil* case. That's why Zimmerman's acquittal was the end of that story (FL), but O.J.'s acquittal was just the beginning (CA).

Castle doctrine is currently only a state-level issue and NRA is providing model legislation that can be implemented (won't happen in CA, though.) It would be nice if we got a federal "castle doctrine" and eliminate these types of idiocies.

[Jimi Jah]

Too bad our society is so litigous that this brave man will soon have to justify his actions in civil court in a wrongful death law suit.

His life is ruined now. 6+1 = guilty.

Those that defend themselves are faced with two awful choices:

Don't shoot and risk death.

Shoot and get sued for life.

[IVC]

Why couldn't I sue the parents if an underage thug knocks over some joint?

Two reasons.

(1) He was not a thug. He was a nice kid who wasn't gonna shoot nobody.

(2) You don't accept EBT cards.

[IVC]

Well in a way I'm guessing the family i thinking "If he didn't have a gun, he wouldn't have robbed that place and been killed"

He had a choice of not having the gun.

[MagicalWisps]

I am originally from South Carolina before I moved out to CA. I obtained my CCW and was carrying in SC for a year and a half before moving.

I took an 8hr course on laws and safety, then the written test. Then a shooting test where marksmanship with my weapon counted toward me getting my CCW.

There is no further training that would have helped this situation deflate. I would have done the same thing if I was there. All criminals were good people at one point in their lives, but then they decided to take advantage of others.

Don't mistake me, shooting someone is hard to think about much less do, but protecting oneself and others is the right thing to do whatever the cost.

[Hoooper]

Im a bit surprised that SC doesnt have a good law on the books protecting the shooter from civil lawsuits in this situation.

also, the O.J. case had nothing to do with castle doctrine, he was found innocent of murder because the jury found insufficient evidence that he was the killer. Not even the strongest castle doctrine laws protect the person who didnt do it. He would have been sued in FL just the same.

[Mulay El Raisuli]

Two reasons.

(1) He was not a thug. He was a nice kid who wasn't gonna shoot nobody.

(2) You don't accept EBT cards.

I forgot about that!


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