Tasered for openly carrying rifle in Texas

[sarabellum]

San Antonio, Texas, police interview a 19 year old openly carrying his bolt action rifle, release him, change their minds, taser him, and then take him into custody.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/01/we-are-going-to-take-that-gun-watch-dramatic-open-carry-arrest-with-an-ending-you-probably-wont-see-coming/

[gobler]

Yeah, I saw this. Kid's gonna be the next Millionaire but alas, I predict the cop who tazed him will get a good "talking to" and be put back on the streets.

[selfshrevident]

WOW. I hope he sues the S**T out of that department and those officers personally.

[coryhenry]

This is so out of control. I talked to a San Diego Police officer the other day and his department had not put out anything about carrying period.

[ChrisC]

Police get calls that someone is pointing a rifle at people. Police find person and simply ask him to lay down his rifle so they can talk to him. But no, the kid had to argue and be a jerk. The police have no idea what he is doing or who he is or what he may be intending to do. They have to go off the calls that were placed.

It is easy to judge after the fact. But maybe if the kid did the simple request of just laying down his firearm so they could talk to him things would have turned out differently. But no, he had to act like he did.

Go ahead and flame away, I don't care. If he would have just done as asked, things would have turned out differently.

[shda5582]

Police get calls that someone is pointing a rifle at people. Police find person and simply ask him to lay down his rifle so they can talk to him. But no, the kid had to argue and be a jerk. The police have no idea what he is doing or who he is or what he may be intending to do. They have to go off the calls that were placed.

It is easy to judge after the fact. But maybe if the kid did the simple request of just laying down his firearm so they could talk to him things would have turned out differently. But no, he had to act like he did.

Go ahead and flame away, I don't care. If he would have just done as asked, things would have turned out differently.

Perhaps.


But can you guarantee that the cops wouldn't have taken his rifle from him and not returned it? If something like this happened in CA, they would have confiscated it just on "public nuisance" alone. I think that was more what the kid was doing; not trying to cause a scene (he did), but he was worried that he wasn't going to get his rifle back if he was illegally disarmed.

Now, my opinion could be wrong, I admit, but it does seem a reasonable assumption at this point, especially in light of how much gun-grabbing we've seen by LEO's all over the country lately.

[zonzin]

Police get calls that someone is pointing a rifle at people. Police find person and simply ask him to lay down his rifle so they can talk to him. But no, the kid had to argue and be a jerk. The police have no idea what he is doing or who he is or what he may be intending to do. They have to go off the calls that were placed.

It is easy to judge after the fact. But maybe if the kid did the simple request of just laying down his firearm so they could talk to him things would have turned out differently. But no, he had to act like he did.

Go ahead and flame away, I don't care. If he would have just done as asked, things would have turned out differently.

Agreed, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.




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[ChrisC]

Perhaps.


But can you guarantee that the cops wouldn't have taken his rifle from him and not returned it? If something like this happened in CA, they would have confiscated it just on "public nuisance" alone. I think that was more what the kid was doing; not trying to cause a scene (he did), but he was worried that he wasn't going to get his rifle back if he was illegally disarmed.

Now, my opinion could be wrong, I admit, but it does seem a reasonable assumption at this point, especially in light of how much gun-grabbing we've seen by LEO's all over the country lately.

There are no guarantee's in life. And you have no idea if they would have confiscated his rifle in California. I have grown up with and still have a lot of friends that are police officers, and they all have no problem with concealed carry or open carry if it was still legal in California. Yes there are some officers that are against it and have attitude problems. And sadly most gun owners judge all officers based on a few. Just like the anti gun folk do to us gun owners. Which in my opinion makes those gun owners huge hypocrites when it comes to officers.

But if people would get off their high horse when it comes to dealing with officers, we would have a lot fewer issues. Open carrying comes with a huge responsibility, and some people think their rights trump showing any common courtesy. If an officer is being a jerk to you, you should be the bigger man and act professionally, but sadly like this last video, that rarely happens.

[ldsnet]

Police get calls that someone is pointing a rifle at people. Police find person and simply ask him to lay down his rifle so they can talk to him. But no, the kid had to argue and be a jerk. The police have no idea what he is doing or who he is or what he may be intending to do. They have to go off the calls that were placed.

It is easy to judge after the fact. But maybe if the kid did the simple request of just laying down his firearm so they could talk to him things would have turned out differently. But no, he had to act like he did.

Go ahead and flame away, I don't care. If he would have just done as asked, things would have turned out differently.

Did you read the article? The first contacting officer was willing to allow the subject to walk away (no crime to investigate), it was when the 2nd officer showed up that things went sideways.

[Josh3239]

Police get calls that someone is pointing a rifle at people.

You know that for sure? Just because the LEO said that doesn't mean that was what the call was. More likely it was just man with a gun. Even if he was being accused of pointing it at people, the Officers clearly didn't see it and found a cooperative person. At no point did he threaten the Officers with action or words, he stopped and talked to them, and maybe I need to watch the video again but he was shot for just standing there. He didn't turn, he didn't flee, he just stood there. He was shot mid-sentence. Explain how that is justifiable?

Police find person and simply ask him to lay down his rifle so they can talk to him.

They were already talking to him and they could continue with the rifle slung over his back.

But no, the kid had to argue and be a jerk. The police have no idea what he is doing or who he is or what he may be intending to do. They have to go off the calls that were placed.

So if you argue and be a jerk you deserve to be tazed? And how was he being a jerk? He was talking, he wasn't attempting to flee, he specifically stated that he would not fight. I am on board with the play stupid games, win stupid prizes but the only one playing a stupid game was Officer Quick Draw.

So if a Peace Officer responds to a call where they don't know what the subject is doing they should just dish out some street justice? I don't know what you intend to do so I am just going to taze you. That is good Police work right there

It is easy to judge after the fact. But maybe if the kid did the simple request of just laying down his firearm so they could talk to him things would have turned out differently. But no, he had to act like he did.

The only one who drew and fired a weapon was the LEO. He did it without attempting to do it any other way. He did it after the kid was told he was free to go. The kid didn't need to "put down the gun" so they could talk to him. They were already in a dialogue. He was tazed mid-dialogue.

[sdfire]

Police get calls that someone is pointing a rifle at people. Police find person and simply ask him to lay down his rifle so they can talk to him. But no, the kid had to argue and be a jerk. The police have no idea what he is doing or who he is or what he may be intending to do. They have to go off the calls that were placed.

It is easy to judge after the fact. But maybe if the kid did the simple request of just laying down his firearm so they could talk to him things would have turned out differently. But no, he had to act like he did.

Go ahead and flame away, I don't care. If he would have just done as asked, things would have turned out differently.

If that kid would have done what he was asked, and touched his firearm in any way, he would be swiss cheese courtesy of the police. You are basically saying that the phone calls made to police take precedent over someone's rights . Any jerk could just call the cops and say whatever they want, and that justifies a military response from the local PD these days. With law enforcement slowly eroding our personal rights and freedoms on a daily basis, at what point do you take a stand? If, one day, one of your buddies in a uniform told you to get naked and dance for them would you just say "ok sir"? Of course you wouldn't Because it is wrong.

[IVC]

Rosa Parks was also a jerk to the bus driver who was, by the way, only following the law. She should've just moved to the back and there would have been no trouble.

Oh wait.... that's different.

[hermosabeach]

I WANT TO HEAR THE 9-1-1 Call.

"We got calls that you were pointing your rifle at people"
If that was the call, I would expect the response to be different

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hCONc6Va8I

[hermosabeach]

gobler

Yeah, I saw this. Kid's gonna be the next Millionaire but alas, I predict the cop who tazed him will get a good "talking to" and be put back on the streets.

As San Antonio has an ordnance making this action illegal, I don't see the cops getting significant trouble....

I do not see the need for the taser to effect the arrest for the local statute.

I also see that statute getting reversed for not being a legal law.

[SoldierLife7]

Police get calls that someone is pointing a rifle at people. Police find person and simply ask him to lay down his rifle so they can talk to him. But no, the kid had to argue and be a jerk. The police have no idea what he is doing or who he is or what he may be intending to do. They have to go off the calls that were placed.

It is easy to judge after the fact. But maybe if the kid did the simple request of just laying down his firearm so they could talk to him things would have turned out differently. But no, he had to act like he did.

Go ahead and flame away, I don't care. If he would have just done as asked, things would have turned out differently.

Well said.