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  • #16
    philobeddoe
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 2022

    Surprised to see this on HuffPo.
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    • #17
      mochimaker
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 45

      Definitely an article to share with our Senators, Assembly and other elected officials.

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      • #18
        HAVOC5150
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 1667

        Bravo, excellent article. Thanks for posting.

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        • #19
          coryhenry
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 1326

          Nice writeup
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          • #20
            RobertMW
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2013
            • 2117

            Originally posted by Paladin

            And then there are those who view the government as neither good nor evil, but merely a powerful entity that, as Thomas Jefferson recognized, must be bound "down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution." To this group, the right to bear arms is no different from any other right enshrined in the Constitution, to be safeguarded, exercised prudently and maintained.
            So that's my take on what government should be. A group that has the sole job of facilitating cooperation and direction of the different branches of our economy, defence, and resources, not something that should have absolute control over all of them.

            But our government has turned into a self-serving conglomerate that has wrested control from the people that it supposedly represents. Time to back our constitution up to the fullest extent.
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            • #21
              taperxz
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2010
              • 19395

              WARNING

              WARNING! With mid-term elections on the horizon, look for liberal news outlets and blogs to "somewhat endorse" 2A rights in order to make things look like "everything is OK" "you can still vote for a democrat"

              The media plays a huge roll on changing hearts and minds especially before an important election where the senate IS at risk of being handed over to the Republicans.

              IMHO, this is the start of the election brain washing cycle.

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              • #22
                Artema
                Veteran Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 3821

                I more fall into that last category. I think it is a fundamental right, and should be protected at all costs, same as every right. No sacrifices. No compromises. Freedom, liberty.
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                • #23
                  lasbrg
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 4240

                  Originally posted by taperxz
                  WARNING! With mid-term elections on the horizon, look for liberal news outlets and blogs to "somewhat endorse" 2A rights in order to make things look like "everything is OK" "you can still vote for a democrat"

                  The media plays a huge roll on changing hearts and minds especially before an important election where the senate IS at risk of being handed over to the Republicans.

                  IMHO, this is the start of the election brain washing cycle.
                  The article author is not sincere?

                  There is a split among Dems that this article indirectly highlights. There has always been a faction of liberals with more libertarian leanings; the type that made up the Occupy movement and that genuinely opposed Bush administration policies like the Patriot Act. The mainstream Dems need these people, but they are not really comfortable with them. With the Edward Snowden NSA revelations, a lot of this group feel betrayed by Obama and may reconsider support for other DNC positions as well.

                  When Bush's approval ratings started to tank, it was because some conservatives were telling pollsters that they disapproved. Now the same thing is happening with Obama. His poll numbers are at all time lows because liberals are starting to say they don't believe in him anymore. That an article like this would appear in HuffPo is neither surprising, nor a conspiracy. It's also a very good sign for our prospects nationally.

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                  • #24
                    taperxz
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 19395

                    Originally posted by lasbrg
                    The article author is not sincere?

                    There is a split among Dems that this article indirectly highlights. There has always been a faction of liberals with more libertarian leanings; the type that made up the Occupy movement and that genuinely opposed Bush administration policies like the Patriot Act. The mainstream Dems need these people, but they are not really comfortable with them. With the Edward Snowden NSA revelations, a lot of this group feel betrayed by Obama and may reconsider support for other DNC positions as well.

                    When Bush's approval ratings started to tank, it was because some conservatives were telling pollsters that they disapproved. Now the same thing is happening with Obama. His poll numbers are at all time lows because liberals are starting to say they don't believe in him anymore. That an article like this would appear in HuffPo is neither surprising, nor a conspiracy. It's also a very good sign for our prospects nationally.
                    I didn't say the AUTHOR was no sincere. However, the author doesn't decide what goes in and what stays out. Editors and Senior Editors decide what gets published and what doesn't.

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                    • #25
                      lasbrg
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 4240

                      Originally posted by taperxz
                      I didn't say the AUTHOR was not sincere. However, the author doesn't decide what goes in and what stays out. Editors and Senior Editors decide what gets published and what doesn't.
                      Fair enough.

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                      • #26
                        e90bmw
                        Senior Member
                        CGN Contributor
                        • May 2013
                        • 1268

                        It was a good article though.

                        The links to the guns and grenade launchers was educational.

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                        • #27
                          flhxxx
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 949

                          The full article linked at the bottom of this edited piece on huffpro is even better...

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                          • #28
                            Mulay El Raisuli
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 3613

                            Originally posted by lasbrg
                            The article author is not sincere?

                            There is a split among Dems that this article indirectly highlights. There has always been a faction of liberals with more libertarian leanings; the type that made up the Occupy movement and that genuinely opposed Bush administration policies like the Patriot Act. The mainstream Dems need these people, but they are not really comfortable with them. With the Edward Snowden NSA revelations, a lot of this group feel betrayed by Obama and may reconsider support for other DNC positions as well.

                            When Bush's approval ratings started to tank, it was because some conservatives were telling pollsters that they disapproved. Now the same thing is happening with Obama. His poll numbers are at all time lows because liberals are starting to say they don't believe in him anymore. That an article like this would appear in HuffPo is neither surprising, nor a conspiracy. It's also a very good sign for our prospects nationally.

                            Agree. Because the pendulum IS swinging.


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                            • #29
                              SanPedroShooter
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 9732

                              lol I think the editors are on spring break.. or drunk... or dead..

                              Every once in awhile something like this will sneak past over there.

                              They froze the comments two or three days ago, they will accept them, just not print them. Don't bother. Somebody is awake over there at a any rate.
                              Last edited by SanPedroShooter; 03-25-2014, 7:40 AM.

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                              • #30
                                Gem1950
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 2876

                                From the comment section below the article -

                                Odd title when government is, by definition, force and the threat of violence. You may agree with their intent, but that doesn't mean others do and those others will need to be "swayed" some way or another. Stefan Molyneux said it best:

                                "If you are for gun control, then you're not against guns, because the guns will be needed to disarm people. You'll need to go around, pass laws, and shoot people who resist, kick in doors, and throw people in jail, and so on; rip up families, just to take away guns. So it's not that you're anti-gun, because [...] you'll need the police's guns to take away other people's guns, so you're very pro-gun, you just believe that only the government (which is of course so reliable, honest, moral, virtuous, and forward-thinking) should be allowed to have guns. So there's no such thing as gun control, there's only centralizing gun ownership in the hands of a small political elite and their minions. Gun control is a misnomer."
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