DASHCAM RELEASED OF ARREST FOR ‘RUDELY DISPLAYING’ RIFLE ON HIKE.

[morfeeis]

I'm sorry, but i dont think things like this are going to stop until people resist arrest, win the fight and are found not guilty by a jury.

[xjdesertfox]

In the description of the video, it says the hiker was convicted. Convicted of what?

Interfering with public duties? What a crock of ****.

[BigStiCK]

Some context would be nice. As it is, we know nothing about the dude with the guns, the location, any kind of previous history, etc....

[SVT-40]

I'm sorry, but i dont think things like this are going to stop until people resist arrest, win the fight and are found not guilty by a jury.

Why don't YOU make yourself the first "test case" for your suggestion??????

Talk is cheap...

[Foresight88]

Despite the fact I disagree with him being disarmed I'm thinking he should have been a bit more cool, especially with his tone when the supervisor showed up.

Not all LEOs are well informed on current laws.

I doubt things would have gone well for him had he resisted like you mention. Could have risked his own life, or worse, his sons if he did.

I'd rather have the LEOs feel me up than to get filled full of holes because I was in the right. Not looking to be a martyr.

[nick]

Why don't YOU make yourself the first "test case" for your suggestion??????

Talk is cheap...

The problem is, with the public perception of police changing (if cases like this do change it, and it does appear so. Might be wrong there), the test cases might just follow. Which will suck for all parties involved.

For example, the public in Russia got tired of LE lawlessness, and it became such a hot issue that even the semi-dictatorial government there had to take notice. As a result, LE there is largely restricted from using force, to the point of often being unable to perform their duties and unnecessarily risking their lives (for example, due to having to perform the whole dance before employing a gun, and being afraid to pull the gun in most cases). It doesn't really matter, how many cops there were good and how many were bad. There were enough bad cops to create the public perception of LE lawlessness, and the rest of LE and the state there, rather than punishing the bad, either protected them, or did nothing, fearing that the punishing a few might open the floodgates for punishing many more. As a result, they all got punished, in a way. Not to mention that, in the attempt to thoroughly clean the LE there, they canned a large percentage of cops (and I bet that a lot of those canned weren't even bad cops, they just got caught by the "cleansing"). The average age of their LE is very young these days...

Quite a few cops there got killed or maimed in the process, as well, as many people thought that being taken in by LE was likely to mean dying anyway, so they figured they had nothing to lose.

Of course, this wasn't in the US, so it cannot happen here. However, there's one thing I noticed that Russians and Americans have in common. Both can eat a lot of abuse for a long time, but when they get pissed - things go really bad. Neither are the "vent quickly and forget" types. So I do hope LE starts to tread more carefully, and consider its public perception. I'm not holding my breath though. Most people only think about the here and now.

[ke6guj]

In the description of the video, it says the hiker was convicted. Convicted of what?

Interfering with public duties? What a crock of ****.

At the moment Ermis grabbed his personal rifle, Grisham instinctively reacted by grabbing the weapon. This momentary reaction is what prosecutors claim "interfered with the duties of a public servant". After the officer threw Grisham onto the hood of the car, still without explaining the charges against him or why he was being disarmed, Grisham refused to comply with orders to have his hands cuffed until he was certain he could get a record of the illegal arrest.




On November 19, 2013, a six member jury found CJ guilty of "interfering with public duties" and fined $2000.

[Ninety]

Why don't YOU make yourself the first "test case" for your suggestion??????

Talk is cheap...

Setting up an ambush for a group police officers that clearly break their oath to uphold the constitution is easy.


Just don't think it has come to that yet.. but lets not kid ourselves... cops are very few in numbers.. and only have the power they have because the population respects that authority.. as soon as the respect for the tin badge has been lost police are no safer from attack maybe less safe then the rest of the common folk.

[squee116]

Some context would be nice. As it is, we know nothing about the dude with the guns, the location, any kind of previous history, etc....

The guy clearly said he was in Temple, Texas in the video.

[riddler408]

Setting up an ambush for a group police officers that clearly break their oath to uphold the constitution is easy.


Just don't think it has come to that yet.. but lets not kid ourselves... cops are very few in numbers.. and only have the power they have because the population respects that authority.. as soon as the respect for the tin badge has been lost police are no safer from attack maybe less safe then the rest of the common folk.

[YoungKee]

At the moment Ermis grabbed his personal rifle, Grisham instinctively reacted by grabbing the weapon. This momentary reaction is what prosecutors claim "interfered with the duties of a public servant". After the officer threw Grisham onto the hood of the car, still without explaining the charges against him or why he was being disarmed, Grisham refused to comply with orders to have his hands cuffed until he was certain he could get a record of the illegal arrest.




On November 19, 2013, a six member jury found CJ guilty of "interfering with public duties" and fined $2000.

This is a major part of the problem. Jurors, when faced with situations like this, need to stop convicting people for reacting like a normal person just because that reaction is to something a cop does. You cannot be expected to check normal human reactions just because someone has a badge.

[TRICKSTER]

http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Soldier-At-Center-Of-Gun-Rights-Debate-Tried-For-Second-Time-232412011.html

One must also take into account that this was his second trial. The first trial ended up with a deadlocked jury. It has been reported that 5 voted to convict and 1 voted not guilty. They must know something that we don't.

[squee116]

Or they prefer to live in a nanny state. I've heard tale Texas was turning blue. George W. Bush and Rick Perry are the products of Texas. Big government is big government. Who knows?

[StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca]

Im just glad to see LE resources are being efficiently used to remove and disarm violent criminals like this Master Sgt from the streets.

[SVT-40]

Setting up an ambush for a group police officers that clearly break their oath to uphold the constitution is easy.


Just don't think it has come to that yet.. but lets not kid ourselves... cops are very few in numbers.. and only have the power they have because the population respects that authority.. as soon as the respect for the tin badge has been lost police are no safer from attack maybe less safe then the rest of the common folk.

Pitiful!!!!