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  • jmatt511
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 688

    Senate Bill 3589

    Will US Senate Bill 3589 make it illegal for churches and other religious institutions to hire armed security?
    Cry Havoc.... and let slip the Dogs of War.

    Shakespeare: Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene I
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    AlmostHeaven
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2023
    • 3808

    Relax. The bill will never make it past the Senate filibuster, let alone the Republican-majority House of Representatives.
    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    The Second Amendment makes us citizens, not subjects. All other enumerated rights are meaningless without gun rights.

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    • #3
      Dan_Eastvale
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2013
      • 9006

      We've already seen video of an armed congregation saving the day.

      this will be DOA

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      • #4
        AlmostHeaven
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2023
        • 3808

        Originally posted by Dan_Eastvale
        We've already seen video of an armed congregation saving the day.

        this will be DOA
        The recent attempted mass shooting at the megachurch in Houston counts as another example of an armed congregation halting an attack.
        A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

        The Second Amendment makes us citizens, not subjects. All other enumerated rights are meaningless without gun rights.

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        • #5
          DCoakley
          Member
          • Jun 2023
          • 269

          This will not pass...

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          • #6
            AlmostHeaven
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2023
            • 3808

            Originally posted by DCoakley
            This will not pass...
            The House of Representatives:

            A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

            The Second Amendment makes us citizens, not subjects. All other enumerated rights are meaningless without gun rights.

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            • #7
              Rickybillegas
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2022
              • 1527

              This bill (SB 3589) is not actually aimed at churches.

              It is actually called the "Preventing Private Paramilitary act of 2024.
              It is primarily aimed at right wing militia groups and was discussed in another thread. However, OP question is valid because (as always will stretch), democrats will use this enforcement to declare church security groups as 'paramilitary'. This is why this bill is raising red flags in the 2nd amendment community.
              As ridiculous as this sounds, this could very well be within anti 2nd amendment targets. Militias in general get no sympathy from democrats or RINO republicans at all. (Mitt, Susan, Lisa...........).

              As for this never passing, I wish I could be so sure. You see, because the bill is not cloaked as an 'anti-church security bill' but an anti-militia bill, I wouldn't count on not having enough R senators or mushy R congress critters crossing the line. Didn't Biden get his bi-partisan control bill?

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              • #8
                AlmostHeaven
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2023
                • 3808

                Originally posted by Rickybillegas
                This bill (SB 3589) is not actually aimed at churches.

                It is actually called the "Preventing Private Paramilitary act of 2024.
                It is primarily aimed at right wing militia groups and was discussed in another thread. However, OP question is valid because (as always will stretch), democrats will use this enforcement to declare church security groups as 'paramilitary'. This is why this bill is raising red flags in the 2nd amendment community.
                As ridiculous as this sounds, this could very well be within anti 2nd amendment targets. Militias in general get no sympathy from democrats or RINO republicans at all. (Mitt, Susan, Lisa...........).

                As for this never passing, I wish I could be so sure. You see, because the bill is not cloaked as an 'anti-church security bill' but an anti-militia bill, I wouldn't count on not having enough R senators or mushy R congress critters crossing the line. Didn't Biden get his bi-partisan control bill?
                The Bipartisan Safer Communities Act required a huge mass shooting at an elementary school in Texas, the most progressive-dominated House of Representatives in American history, and stabs in the back from Mitch McConnell and John Cornyn. During an election year with a fairly conservative Speaker of the House, the stars remain substantially less likely to align for gun control.
                A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

                The Second Amendment makes us citizens, not subjects. All other enumerated rights are meaningless without gun rights.

                Comment

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